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The food you eat may change your genes for life
New Scientist ^ | 17 November 2005 | Alison Motluk

Posted on 11/21/2005 11:07:11 PM PST by Lorianne

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1 posted on 11/21/2005 11:07:12 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

This has been posted before but I will repeat my reply.

Apparently drinking can change genes, or something like that. I can't really remember what I said, but it was funny. Wonder why I can't remember?


2 posted on 11/21/2005 11:35:57 PM PST by U S Army EOD (I NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER TAG LINE)
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To: Lorianne

bttt


3 posted on 11/21/2005 11:46:26 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: Lorianne
"The things you eat may change your genes"

And if you eat too much , you may need to change into larger jeans ; )

CC

4 posted on 11/21/2005 11:50:41 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Billy Tauzin about Louisiana: "half the state is under water, the other half is under indictment")
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To: Lorianne

It's about time I changed mine anyway. The neighbors were starting to crinkle their noses when they saw me coming.


5 posted on 11/22/2005 12:39:57 AM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Lorianne; PatrickHenry
The food you eat may change your genes for life

Before someone jumps to what may seem an obvious conclusion, this *isn't* a validation of Lamarckism -- the "gene changes" they're talking about here are *not* the kind that can be passed on to your offspring.

6 posted on 11/22/2005 12:46:40 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
Before someone jumps to what may seem an obvious conclusion, this *isn't* a validation of Lamarckism --

Right.

the "gene changes" they're talking about here are *not* the kind that can be passed on to your offspring.

I think this goes too far, though. It's possible that the methylation or demethylation of a gene causes the release of substances that do the same in offspring while in the womb. These offspring then do the same to their offspring and so on.

7 posted on 11/22/2005 1:40:51 AM PST by mc6809e
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8 posted on 11/22/2005 2:37:39 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Junior

Archives?


9 posted on 11/22/2005 2:48:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Expect no response if you're a troll, lunatic, retard, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: U S Army EOD

I have known a couple of people who lost their jeans while drinking....


10 posted on 11/22/2005 2:48:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Lorianne
We stand on the threshold of series behavior modification.

Imagine the 're-education camps' with something like this....YIKE!

11 posted on 11/22/2005 2:50:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
And if you eat too much , you may need to change into larger jeans

Baby's feeling funny in the mornings, she's having trouble getting into her jeans. --Jackson Browne

12 posted on 11/22/2005 2:55:13 AM PST by aardvark1 (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Yepper.


13 posted on 11/22/2005 3:50:24 AM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: U S Army EOD

bump


14 posted on 11/22/2005 5:13:43 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Ichneumon; neverdem
Before someone jumps to what may seem an obvious conclusion, this *isn't* a validation of Lamarckism -- the "gene changes" they're talking about here are *not* the kind that can be passed on to your offspring.

Are you sure about that? I thought that certain drugs can cause gene mutations or permanently modify certain dna markers which can be passed on to offspring.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 6:13:02 AM PST by phantomworker (A new day! Begin it serenely; with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense!)
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To: Lorianne

"No one is envisaging injecting supplements into people's brains,"

Wake up and smell the coffee, dude. No one in Western democracies is envisioning such. Russians and Chinese are envisioning exactly this thing.


16 posted on 11/22/2005 8:18:16 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: Lorianne

Absolutely superb post.


17 posted on 11/22/2005 8:18:49 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: Ichneumon
"Before someone jumps to what may seem an obvious conclusion, this *isn't* a validation of Lamarckism -- the "gene changes" they're talking about here are *not* the kind that can be passed on to your offspring.

What are you talking about, this is intelligent design Lamarckism...I wonder if they have a pill to help...ummm...certain body parts to grow?...

18 posted on 11/22/2005 10:13:57 AM PST by b_sharp (I once thought of a good tagline but then promptly forgot it.)
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To: phantomworker
Only if already existing gametes are modified as well.
19 posted on 11/22/2005 10:15:53 AM PST by b_sharp (I once thought of a good tagline but then promptly forgot it.)
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To: phantomworker
Are you sure about that? I thought that certain drugs can cause gene mutations or permanently modify certain dna markers which can be passed on to offspring.

I tried the following on Google:

"genetic mutations caused by drugs"
"drug associated genetic mutations"
"drug induced genetic mutations"

The only result was The Wall Street Journal's War on Cancer, and Google picks up professional articles. You might find this article interesting, but no mention of drug associated genetic mutations, or similar phenomena, was made.

Environmental Causes of Human Congenital Malformations: The Pediatrician’s Role in Dealing With These Complex Clinical Problems Caused by a Multiplicity of Environmental and Genetic Factors

20 posted on 11/22/2005 10:50:02 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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