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SCALIA RAPS GORE FOR '00 (USSC Justice says Gore people forced election 2000 into courts)
NY POST ^ | November 22, 2005 | FRANKIE EDOZIEN

Posted on 11/22/2005 5:45:52 AM PST by Liz

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says the high court did not inject itself into the 2000 presidential election.

.......Scalia said: "The election was dragged into the courts by the Gore people. We did not go looking for trouble." .........the court had to take the case.

"The issue was whether Florida's Supreme Court or the United States Supreme Court [would decide the election.] What did you expect us to do? Turn the case down because it wasn't important enough?"

(Scalia) contended there would have been a difficult transition had the court not stepped in....... (and that) studies by news organizations.....showed Bush still would have won a Florida recount

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KEYWORDS: 2000; floridarecount; gore; scalia; scotus
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The Gore people were hopelessly out-lawyered, so says the Washington Times' Bill Sammon's book, which recounted the court fight that ensued.
1 posted on 11/22/2005 5:45:53 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Eat that, Al.


2 posted on 11/22/2005 5:46:41 AM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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To: Liz
The Gore people were hopelessly out-lawyered

Plus the fact that they were dead wrong.

3 posted on 11/22/2005 5:48:25 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Liz
What did you expect us to do? Turn the case down because it wasn't important enough?"

giggle

4 posted on 11/22/2005 5:50:12 AM PST by fml
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To: Liz
The Gore people were hopelessly out-lawyered, so says the Washington Times' Bill Sammon's book, which recounted the court fight that ensued.

Are you suggesting that the results were determined by "lawyering" rather than by the facts?

5 posted on 11/22/2005 5:50:24 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Graybeard58

Since when has being dead wrong stopped the liberals?


6 posted on 11/22/2005 5:52:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Graybeard58

Yep, no matter how you counted the vote, Gore lost. The only way that he could have won was if you started stealing votes from third-party candidates and giving them to him.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 5:54:06 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Liz

"The election was dragged into the courts by the Gore people."

And they dang near stole it too. Thank heaven for that great Texan, James Baker, whose Baker Institute is an integral part of Rice University.


8 posted on 11/22/2005 5:58:06 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Publius6961

Both sides had the same facts, but Gore's side was so intent on manipulating the facts, they lost the legal war over the facts.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 5:58:15 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Right....Baker's was brilliant lawyering.


10 posted on 11/22/2005 5:58:59 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Graybeard58

Plus the fact that they were dead wrong.
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And the fact that the Florida state court DELIBERATELY LEGISLATED FROM THE BENCH (standard liberal format) and changed Florida election law, to suit Gore. Totally illegal.

But of course, the law-breaking libs don't see it that way. Breaking the law is their normal modus operandi...


11 posted on 11/22/2005 5:59:55 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Liz

He played hard ball, right from the git go. Ted Olsen was also magnificent.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 6:00:01 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Liz
As I remember, it should have been the Florida State legislators who stepped up - according to Florida law - to resolve the issue. They chickened of course, probably fearing the never used provision would be made to look like tampering.

It didn't need to go to court, but once it did there was no stopping it.

13 posted on 11/22/2005 6:01:06 AM PST by chiller (Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
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To: satchmodog9

Al whined, "I ran for president, and all I got were these."

14 posted on 11/22/2005 6:02:40 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
How dare Al Gore disgrace this nation

Outrage of the Week (07/30/99): Gore ‘Up A Creek'
Vice President Al Gore's Presidential campaign, already drowning in the polls, was forced to deal with a flood of bad press this week following another public relation blunder.  When Vice President Al Gore visited New Hampshire last week for a four-mile photo-op of him paddling along the Connecticut River, he needed a little help staying afloat.  The Washington Times reported that nearly four billion gallons of water were released from a nearby dam before Gore's publicity stunt to ensure that Gore's canoe wouldn't hit or scratch bottom during his environmental photo-op.  The release of the water --which raised the water level eight to ten inches -- irritated John Kassel, Director of the Vermont Department of Natural Resources.  "They won't release the water for the fish when we ask them to, but somehow they find themselves able to release it for a politician," said Kassel.  "The only reason they did this was to make sure the Vice President's canoe didn't get stuck."  Remember that next time al Gore gives a speech bemoaning the squandering of our natural resources.


15 posted on 11/22/2005 6:02:50 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Liz

I saw Justice Scalia speak about four years ago. There was a Q&A period at the end of Justice's excellent speech. This liberal undergrad gets up and in a condescending way asks "Why don't you explain to us non-lawyers, why you stole the election from Al Gore?".

Scalia replies, "No, I won't".

Hilarious.

Although I wished the question had been asked in a more intelligent and respectful way, so Scalia would have answered it.


16 posted on 11/22/2005 6:04:50 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: Liz
James Baker was the architect of the President-elect recount victory.

While the Gore team banked on the Florida Judiciary to jury-rig a vote recount, Baker correctly saw a one-man-one-vote issue and went straight to Federal Court.

17 posted on 11/22/2005 6:06:13 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: chiller
The heavily majority Republican Florida State legislators were quite prepared to vote but the USSC took the case before the deadline for the vote arrived and the State legislators never had to take a vote. If they had the outcome would have been the same.
18 posted on 11/22/2005 6:07:54 AM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: satchmodog9

Good for Scalia!


19 posted on 11/22/2005 6:08:32 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Liz
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20 posted on 11/22/2005 6:13:50 AM PST by apackof2 (I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American. Daniel Webster)
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To: meema

Look at the first picture of Gore in post #15.

That's a "rotary" phone on the table behind him.

That's real high tech, Al. Is that the phone you used to invent the internet?


21 posted on 11/22/2005 6:19:09 AM PST by CTOCS (This space left intentionally blank...)
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To: Publius6961

A smart lawyer's lawyering will be much more proficient when he is lawyering with the facts on his side. Gore was outlawyered.


22 posted on 11/22/2005 6:20:51 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: CheyennePress

Remember; they did that, too.


23 posted on 11/22/2005 6:21:31 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Liz; Congressman Billybob
ping,
That is definitely going to leave a mark. Our esteemed Congressman was there, and can testify to the courts of history, that sore/loserman was looking to steal the election.
As to the rest of the gallery here at FreeRepublic, we watched in anger and horror as the demonrat weasels rolled out a plan to obfuscate the outcome in Florida in an effort to steamroll the republican party and the American people into turning over the the presidency to gore.
24 posted on 11/22/2005 6:21:49 AM PST by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: Semper Paratus

Crooked Dims were prepared to count, recount, and re-recount until they had the numbers they needed to win-----old Dumbo technique started by a company in Chicago called the "Daley Family Vote Mfg Co."


Even if it takes all night, The Daley Co comes up with the votes---even if the number of votes found exceeds the number of registered voters in a particular precinct.


25 posted on 11/22/2005 6:22:19 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz; All

Gore was wrong on all counts.

Gore was vote shopping and when the legal procedures did not result in the votes he was shopping for, he conned the Florida courts into going along with changing the game after the votes were cast, and when that didn't work he asked for more rule/law changes.

Gore never sought a complete and total manual recount of the whole state and under the laws and conditions that applied to such a recount when the votes were cast. Why?

Gore was shopping for votes. He was not interested in what changes a total state manual recount might obtain in majority Republican counties. His original challenges were all in majority Democrat counties where he hoped his vote shopping there could be used to adjust the state totals. The Republicans saw it for what is was from the beginning - a vote shopping expedition.

SCOTUS rightly ended the Florida courts' judicial intervention on the side of Gore, and his little expedition.

The tragedy for the country is that Gore, true to his liberal Democrat roots, cared more about obtaining power than doing what was right for the country.

Nixon - with more legitimate right in 1960 than Gore ever had in 2000 - could have challenged the election results in Illinois; and his friends and allies suggested he make that challenge. He chose not to, telling his friends that no matter what the outcome of such a challenge brought, neither he nor Kennedy would win because the political process of the challenge would leave the "victorious" President and the nation badly crippled in the process. At that point in time, Nixon was a statesman. Gore was a power hungry ass.


26 posted on 11/22/2005 6:24:24 AM PST by Wuli
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To: jokar
FLORIDUH VOTING MACHINE

It was hysterical when all the Dim ladies with blue hair drove to the polls in their $50,000 Mercedes.

They whined about Floriduh voting machines, and said they "accidentally" voted for Pat Buchanan instead of Gore.

27 posted on 11/22/2005 6:33:11 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
Crooked Dims were prepared to count, recount, and re-recount until they had the numbers they needed to win

And the Florida Supreme Court would have stopped the re-count as soon as Gore pulled ahead.

I'll never forget the sinking feeling I had during the last recount ordered by the FSC as W's lead kept shrinking.

28 posted on 11/22/2005 6:33:21 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Wuli


"Stop the count"-----the words of the USSC that fateful night that effectively ended Dim's duplicity----will never be forgotten.


29 posted on 11/22/2005 6:36:53 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

We knew they wpould recount until they got the answer they wanted. Didnt they prove that in Washington State?


30 posted on 11/22/2005 6:38:50 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Liz
"The election was dragged into the courts by the Gore people."

Scalia should know by now that the truth must never be told about the lefties. They will accuse him of hate speech.

31 posted on 11/22/2005 6:44:26 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

The lefties scam is old news.


Goes something like this: they establish their bona fides by proclaiming they are very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, "tolerant and compassionate."

Once that's out of the way, they have a free pass to commit every crime in the book.

All they have to do when caught in the act, is drag out their "tolerance and compassion."

Works every time.


32 posted on 11/22/2005 6:50:42 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: chiller
As I remember, it should have been the Florida State legislators who stepped up - according to Florida law - to resolve the issue. They chickened of course, probably fearing the never used provision would be made to look like tampering.

It didn't need to go to court, but once it did there was no stopping it.

Basically SCOTUS said that if the same situation arose again, they would not take the case because in fact it was up to the legislature of Florida to do it.

The legislature should have assembled, called Secretary of State Harris to testify before it, and then named the Bush slate of electors.

Actually, she had - pursuant to the law - already named them; the legislature should have simply closed out the time for the SCoFla to hear challenges and mandate recounts.

And, lest we forget, the "objective journalists," broadcasting under license from the FCC, tampered with the vote as surely as if they had campaigned for Gore within the polling places of the Florida Panhandle - costing Bush thousands of votes.


33 posted on 11/22/2005 6:55:42 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: chiller
Actually, the Florida legislature was prepared to act, and name the Presidential Electors from that state. It was going to act if the legal effort to overturn the official Florida vote seemed like it would succeed. The US Supreme Court, by straightening out the Florida Supreme Court, made that action unnecessary.

There is noting unusual or out of line for a legislature to name a state's Electors. In the first few Presidential Elections, that was the usual way of doing it. And the Constitution permits that latitude to the state legislatures.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "What If the French Had Pulled a 'Murtha' in 1781?"

34 posted on 11/22/2005 6:57:40 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Thank heaven for that great Texan, James Baker,

Amen to that! The Velvet Hammer saved the day.

35 posted on 11/22/2005 7:02:00 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Liz
They whined about Floriduh voting machines, and said they "accidentally" voted for Pat Buchanan instead of Gore.


36 posted on 11/22/2005 7:06:58 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Liz

and it appeared to me that Kerry went to school on the 2000 election and came away with the same terrible attitude as Gore... his refusal to concede and allow the President his night was nothing, if not mean-spirited.


37 posted on 11/22/2005 7:40:00 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Liz
Ahhh yes. The election of 2000.

The first and last time democratic hypocrites have argued for State Rights!
38 posted on 11/22/2005 7:45:41 AM PST by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: Liz

I heard that several big lawyers "were too busy" to work on the case because they thought it was a loser and a boondoggle.


39 posted on 11/22/2005 7:47:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Liz

Yes, Bill did say that.

Sammon's book, "At Any Cost; How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election".

This is a great book and everybody should read it before the 2006 election. They're using the same playbook and reading this will give people a heads up on what to expect.


40 posted on 11/22/2005 8:34:52 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: Liz

<< The Gore people were hopelessly out-lawyered ... >>

And their position hopelessly fraudulent.

Hopelessly.

Fraudulent.

Hopelessly fraudulent.

Even for second generation lying looting treasonous racketeer, dangerous dullard and willing member of the Blly-Bubba-Blythe Crime Family: Underdon Al-Fredo Gore-leone.


41 posted on 11/22/2005 9:40:35 AM PST by Brian Allen (Patriotic, Immigrant & therefore Hyphenated-AMERICAN-American & Aviator by choice. Christian byGrace)
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To: CTOCS
That's a "rotary" phone on the table behind him.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Yep. That must be what he used to invent the "net"!

I have this habit of scrolling past pics of people who give me nightmares, or are just gross, so I didn't catch it the first time.
Then the one in #20 made me jump!

42 posted on 11/22/2005 2:49:09 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Wuli

WOW! You hit every nail on the head. Well done!


43 posted on 11/22/2005 2:57:00 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Semper Paratus
Crooked Dims were prepared to count, recount, and re-recount until they had the numbers they needed to win

And the Florida Supreme Court would have stopped the re-count as soon as Gore pulled ahead.

That's the recipe the 'Rats used in WA to steal the gubernatorial election win from Rossi (R). The 'Rat-run King Co. Elections Department kept miraculously finding new ballots by the thousands--until they found enough to put Fraudoire (D) over the top--by 45 votes.

At my polling place on election day this year I asked the poll workers if votes counted this year. You could tell at a glance which were 'Rats and which were 'Icans.

44 posted on 11/22/2005 3:07:55 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Dream Ticket: Cheney/Rice '08)
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To: Liz
Folks, I was in Morocco in November '00 and all I had was CNN World... from that far off land it appeared the Republicans were being out-lawyered by the Dims.

I kept yelling at tv... why are not the Republicans doing a thing to answer the bell.

Once I steped back on U.S. soil in late November - I found out that CNN was skewing the reporting... I/we all know why.

Al Gore/David Boise (spelling?)/yard gnome William Christopher... don't go away mad... just go away.

45 posted on 11/22/2005 3:15:35 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Liz

Doesn't matter. People who want to believe that Bush stole Florida will deny any and all evidence to the contrary.


46 posted on 11/22/2005 3:19:02 PM PST by GSWarrior (Posting bandwidth-consuming images since November 2000.)
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To: Trajan88
.......from that far off land it appeared (on CNN) Republicans were being out-lawyered by the Dims......

Yeah, but the Gore people were so arrogant, so sure of themselves, and the voter fraud scam they were pulling, CNN went right along 'em.

47 posted on 11/22/2005 4:36:47 PM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

Those 30 some days and watching the Gore folks about to steal the Presidency are SEARED into all our memories. The only laugh I got during this time was when the judge told Larry Klayman to sit down. lol


48 posted on 11/22/2005 4:45:49 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Liz

Remind me: O'Connor voted to end the recount, right?


49 posted on 11/22/2005 4:50:18 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers

The FLA recount was halted and without a recount, the certification of Bush as the narrow winner of Florida's 25 electoral votes -- and thus the presidency -- stood.

The justices said the Florida Supreme Court allowed uneven treatment of hand-counted votes, adding that a proper recount could not be conducted without "substantial additional work." (Gore had made the huge mistake of asking for a recount in selected districts only----where he knew he could win, which made the recount legally suspect.)

Ruling in the majority were Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Antonin Scalia, Anthony M. Kennedy and Clarence Thomas. Dissenting were Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Breyer.

Bush officially won the FLA count by couple hundred votes although many believe voter fraud was huge, and that Bush won substantially more votes.


50 posted on 11/22/2005 6:20:17 PM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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