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Saying No to National ID: Social Security Card Burn
NHFree.com ^ | 11-22-05 | Kat Dillon

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:28:31 AM PST by bookish_lass

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1 posted on 11/22/2005 7:28:32 AM PST by bookish_lass
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To: bookish_lass

They're about 30 years too late.

Good intentions though :)


2 posted on 11/22/2005 7:32:27 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bookish_lass
social security cards were burned

..what a waste, so many illegals could have used them

Doogle

3 posted on 11/22/2005 7:32:52 AM PST by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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To: bookish_lass
"Not to be used for Identification."

Mine still says that.

4 posted on 11/22/2005 7:33:23 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar

As does mine, I will have to check my 1 year old's card today to find out if his has it too!


5 posted on 11/22/2005 7:38:51 AM PST by rom
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To: bookish_lass
"social security cards were burned"

northeastern pointy-headed liberal activists alert.

6 posted on 11/22/2005 7:45:23 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Oppose One "Farce" at the Border)
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To: bookish_lass

I must have blinked. When did anyone hear about the RealID act?


7 posted on 11/22/2005 8:13:00 AM PST by shekkian
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To: bookish_lass

"A government which abuses and therefore fears its populace needs to be able to track them at all times."

Could it be that a government that needs to find a way to combat infiltration by illegal immigration and wants to diminsh voter fraud might want a similar type of system?


8 posted on 11/22/2005 8:23:41 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: bookish_lass

"...Free State activists from Keene..."

Keene is a liberal barking moonbat bastion. You can hardly walk through there as a conservative...they can smell your contempt and disgust the way dogs and bees smell fear...:)


9 posted on 11/22/2005 8:29:02 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: bookish_lass
"Papieren, bitte" - "papers, please".

Throughout the 20th Century, that was indicative of the worst of gov't oppression. Free people didn't have to prove their legitimacy on demand by gov't agents.

Now it's suddenly a given in the US. WTF?

10 posted on 11/22/2005 8:38:20 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: bookish_lass

The only way to weed out the illegals is a national ID swipe card into a national database. Better than having the country overrun with parasites.


11 posted on 11/22/2005 8:38:50 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: rlmorel

Keene is becoming populated with libertarian activists :) If we're noisy enough, it'll stop seeming so liberal. When I was on talk radio in "liberal" Keene, callers were asking things like 'were the Free State Project was going to help reduce taxes?' :)

Our next event is Second Annual UN Flag Burn.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 8:45:42 AM PST by bookish_lass
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To: rlmorel
While true, I know a few conservatives that made it through "Kinda Sort College" (Keene state) and one family of republicans living there. Of course the definition of Republican gets skewed up in the North, so who knows.
13 posted on 11/22/2005 8:46:58 AM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: rlmorel

Then secure the borders and have a voting-specific ID (NY uses signatures, Iraq uses purple ink - good enough).

The problem with immigration is the free-for-all welfare system drawing people here, and a tax system that confiscates money from workers' paychecks requiring each employee be registered. Cure the disease, not the symptom.

The problem with voting is making sure people vote (a) once, and (b) in their home jurisdiction. If you want a voter ID card, fine - but, like the SSN card, it should NEVER be used for anything other than its original narrow purpose.

I'm shocked that FR frequenters seek a solution that involves protecting the welfare state by increasing gov't monitoring/control of citizens - that's socialism, not conservatism.


14 posted on 11/22/2005 8:47:41 AM PST by ctdonath2
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"When Social Security was first foisted on America, the cards were imprinted with, "Not to be used for Identification."

Someone needs to tell that to the DMV and schools.


15 posted on 11/22/2005 8:48:02 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tkathy

Haven't learned from history, have you?
What happens when, say, Hillary decides who constitutes a "parasite"?


16 posted on 11/22/2005 8:48:29 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: tkathy
Hmm i would have though a fence would do a better job than a piece of plastic that you have to show when you try and buy beer, smokes, porn, or get a job. On the last one you've got a pretty good chance of not being carded.

Besides, I've got my drivers licenses, SS card, passport, and library card. I don't need the feds spending 234 billion dollars a year to issue another card. My wallet is running out of room.
17 posted on 11/22/2005 8:50:01 AM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: metmom

Oh, but driving is a PRIVILEDGE, remember? That's what people keep telling me. Courts have deemed that while the feds can't use SSNs as IDs, it's not their problem if a state requires you participate in a federal retirement pyramid scheme ... and not their problem that the state won't get federal money if they don't require the SSN. So long as the buck doesn't stop anywhere, lots of official prohibitions on gov't behavior are moot.

Conservatives seem to be morphing into socialists as well, with comments like "don't want to give your SSN to the DMV? walk!" and "everyone needs to prove their citizenship on demand lest those illegal immigrants might get access to our untouchable welfare system". Gack.


18 posted on 11/22/2005 8:55:05 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: shekkian

http://www.sierratimes.com/02/07/26/artd072602.htm


19 posted on 11/22/2005 8:57:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: tfecw

Passport should be enough, and that only for crossing national borders.

SSN? I want out of the pyramid scheme; keep the money, I just don't want to put any more in.

Library card? Haven't been to a library in years (internet + bookstores is plenty).

Driver's license? I'll tolerate that one - so long as it is ONLY used as proof I know how to drive.

Beer, smokes, etc.? At 37, it's pretty friggin' obvious I'm an adult. Don't waste my time pretending you don't know I'm not under 18/21/whatever.

Job? ID is only required so the feds are assured they'll get half my income. Go back to what the Constitution originally intended: the states pay up, and it's their problem where that money comes from. Besides, ID is only required if you work _for_ someone; running one's own business does not require SSN (given the proper financial arrangement).


20 posted on 11/22/2005 9:06:56 AM PST by ctdonath2
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