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Atta in Prague
The Corner at National Review ^ | 11/22/2005 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 11/22/2005 8:17:42 AM PST by Weimdog

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To: Weimdog

Does this in any way tie into information by the accounts of Jayna Davis in the book "The Third Terrorist"?


21 posted on 11/22/2005 9:27:19 AM PST by TShaunK
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To: Weimdog

Great find-thanks.


22 posted on 11/22/2005 9:27:40 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: Poincare

Maybe off-thread, but very interesting. And as the WSJ article makes clear, there is a definite connection between the Atta meeting and constant, deliberate intelligence leaks by rogue agents in the CIA and the FBI.

In other words, all this stuff is interconnected. Most likely the same people who deny the Atta meeting took place because they have a political agenda are responsible for the leaks. Possibly they did it deliberately in order to blow any chance that the Czechs could turn up more evidence.


23 posted on 11/22/2005 9:28:37 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Cis, I'm increasingly convinced that someone in the CIA, for some reason, was setting up TENET, and that he was passing some (not all) bad info on to Bush. This may have been disgruntled CIA employees, or a deliberate Soviet (or Arab) penetration operation. But Tenet was too incompetent to be that bad. I know professors, for God's sake, who could have done a better job. It seems he must have been deliberately getting fed some bad info---just enough to keep us from completely tying in Saddam.


24 posted on 11/22/2005 9:31:05 AM PST by LS
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To: Cicero
There's no question whatsoever that it's all interconnected. Saddam was actively seeking revenge against America ever since our expulsion of his forces from Kuwait and the resulting embargoes and no-fly zone enforcement of his airspace (in his mind he felt that we double-crossed him). The manifestations of his desire for revenge go all the way back to his attempted assassination against Bush the elder and the first WTC bombing on '93 exactly two years after his expulsion from Kuwait.

The Clintonistas and their bureaucratic lackeys actively turned a blind eye to all of this for years, and 9/11 is his resulting legacy. All the lies we're endlessly fed on a daily basis are an attempt to rewrite history and to cover their worthless, incompetent asses.

25 posted on 11/22/2005 9:40:47 AM PST by jpl
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To: Weimdog; Sean Osborne Lomax; Carl/NewsMax; ntrulock; Jeff Head; Blindboy16; JohnOG; ...

One Czech faction, let's call them the reformers, would have had it in their interest to share intel info regarding an Atta - Mukhabarat "meet up," if true, with the US. Another Czech faction, let's call them the old boy network, would not have had it in their interest and in fact may themselves have been benefitting from the Oil-For-Food scam while actually facilitating things like the Atta - Mukhabarat "meet up." It is highly likely that this latter group have long been involved in Iraq, Syria, Iran, terrorism and the former USSR, due to being of StB pedigree. What a complicated scenario this may in fact be. Hence, the murkyness.


26 posted on 11/22/2005 9:41:45 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Weimdog

BUMP!


27 posted on 11/22/2005 9:41:47 AM PST by TBall
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To: Weimdog

BTTT!


28 posted on 11/22/2005 9:44:03 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Cicero
From my files:

In Washington, the FBI moved to quiet the Prague connection by telling journalists that it had car rentals and records that put Atta in Virginia Beach, Va., and Florida close to, if not during, the period when he was supposed to be in Prague. The New York Times , citing information provided by "federal law enforcement officials," reported that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 2, 2001, and by April 11, "Atta was back in Florida, renting a car."

All these reports attributed to the FBI were, as it turns out, erroneous. There were no car rental records in Virginia, Florida, or anywhere else in April 2001 for Mohamed Atta, since he had not yet obtained his Florida license.

His international license was at his father's home in Cairo, Egypt (where his roommate Marwan al-Shehhi picked it up in late April). Nor were there other records in the hands of the FBI that put Atta in the United States at the time. Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in June 2002, "It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias" to "meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague." Clearly, it was not beyond the capabilities of the 9/11 hijackers to use aliases.

Source

The only dispute over Atta's whereabouts is whether he was in Prague on April 9, 2001, to meet with Samir al Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer. Czech intelligence insists he was. Able Danger, apparently, had information supporting the Czechs.

Source

Spanish police last February arrested Algerians Khaled Madani, 33, and Moussa Laour, 36, on suspicion of furnishing phony passports to, among others, al Qaeda operatives Ramzi Binalshibh and Mohamed Atta. According to a February 29 Associated Press dispatch, Binalshibh revealed Madani's identity to interrogators at the American military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Source

Also info on Shakir at that link, which is another connection between 9/11 and Iraq.

January 4, 2001: Atta flies from Miami to Madrid, Spain.

January 10, 2001: Return flight from Madrid to Miami.

Wikipedia Timeline

This was 4 months before he allegedly went to Prague. IMHO, this is when he picked up the fake passports, which he used to go to Prague. Meanwhile, in a February 24 letter to James Beasley, Jr., the attorney in the aforementioned lawsuit, Czech U.N. Ambassador Hynek Kmonicek affirms an October 26, 2001 statement by Czech Interior Minister Stanislav Gross: "In this moment we can confirm, that during the next stay of Mr. Muhammad Atta in the Czech Republic there was the contact with the official of the Iraqi intelligence, Mr. Al Ani, Ahmed Khalin Ibrahim Samir, who was on 22nd April 2001 expelled from the Czech Republic on the basis of activities which were not compatible with the diplomatic status." Atta flew from Virginia Beach, Virginia to Prague on April 7, 2001. Car-rental records place him in the Czech capitol the next day. He flew home to Florida that April 9.

National Review

So they have car rental records as well.

29 posted on 11/22/2005 9:49:34 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: GOP_1900AD

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 11/22/2005 9:53:24 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Weimdog

It is known and not disputed that Atta made a previous trip to Prague in 2000: http://www.respekt.cz/english/clanek_detail.php?f_id=62

Atta had previously been appointed head of the "planes" operation by bin Laden. He flew to Prague, stayed a few hours at the airport, and flew back to Germany. One possible explanation for this unusual trip: was he scouting the potential for hijacking an airliner and flying it into Radio Liberty headquarters in Prague?


31 posted on 11/22/2005 9:54:45 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Weimdog

bttt - marker


32 posted on 11/22/2005 9:55:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Weimdog
Related info from my files:

We already know exactly what Bergerr took and why...pay close attention to the last para on the Clarke/Kerrick memo. From Ashcroft's testimony:

The NSC's Millennium After Action Review declares that the United States barely missed major terrorist attacks in 1999 — with luck playing a major role. Among the many vulnerabilities in homeland defenses identified, the Justice Department's surveillance and FISA operations were specifically criticized for their glaring weaknesses. It is clear from the review that actions taken in the Millennium Period should not be the operating model for the U.S. government.

In March 2000, the review warns the prior Administration of a substantial al Qaeda network and affiliated foreign terrorist presence within the U.S., capable of supporting additional terrorist attacks here. [My note: AD info?]

Furthermore, fully seventeen months before the September 11 attacks, the review recommends disrupting the al Qaeda network and terrorist presence here using immigration violations, minor criminal infractions, and tougher visa and border controls.

Post #745

It falls directly into the AD timeline. In that same post, I note that what Sandy Berger stole was the versions of the after action report:

The missing copies, according to Breuer and their author, Richard A. Clarke, the counterterrorism chief in the Clinton administration and early in President Bush's administration, were versions of after-action reports recommending changes following threats of terrorism as 1999 turned to 2000. Clarke said he prepared about two dozen ideas for countering terrorist threats. The recommendations were circulated among Cabinet agencies, and various versions of the memo contained additions and refinements, Clarke said last night.

Therefore, they were never provided to the Commission, as evidenced by the Commission Report footnotes (#769):

46. NSC email, Clarke to Kerrick,“Timeline,”Aug. 19, 1998; Samuel Berger interview (Jan. 14, 2004). We did not find documentation on the after-action review mentioned by Berger. On Vice Chairman Joseph Ralston’s mission in Pakistan, see William Cohen interview (Feb. 5, 2004). For speculation on tipping off the Taliban, see, e.g., Richard Clarke interview (Dec. 18, 2003).

And to what does footnote (46) refer? On p. 117, Chapter 4, we find this:

Later on August 20, Navy vessels in the Arabian Sea fired their cruise missiles. Though most of them hit their intended targets, neither Bin Ladin nor any other terrorist leader was killed. Berger told us that an after-action review by Director Tenet concluded that the strikes had killed 20–30 people in the camps but probably missed Bin Ladin by a few hours. Since the missiles headed for Afghanistan had had to cross Pakistan, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was sent to meet with Pakistan’s army chief of staff to assure him the missiles were not coming from India. Officials in Washington speculated that one or another Pakistani official might have sent a warning to the Taliban or Bin Ladin. (46)
How about that? How many times have we heard Clinton say that he missed Bin Ladin by just a few hours? Yet the after-action report is missing, so the Commission relied on Sandy Berger's testimony.

Then the Clarke/Kerrick memo peaked my interest and I found this (#784):

Clarke was nervous about such a mission because he continued to fear that Bin Ladin might leave for someplace less accessible. He wrote Deputy National Security Advisor Donald Kerrick that one reliable source reported Bin Ladin's having met with Iraqi officials, who "may have offered him asylum." Other intelligence sources said that some Taliban leaders, though not Mullah Omar, had urged Bin Ladin to go to Iraq. If Bin Ladin actually moved to Iraq, wrote Clarke, his network would be at Saddam Hussein's service, and it would be "virtually impossible" to find him. Better to get Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, Clarke declared.


33 posted on 11/22/2005 9:56:27 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: TShaunK
Ramzi Yousef (1993 WTC) and Terry Nichols (OKC) crossed paths in the Phillipines. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (9/11)was Yousef's uncle. It is interesting to note that Yousef entered the United States on an Iraqi passport and had been known among the New York fundamentalists as "Rashid, the Iraqi". Another name that could be thrown into the mix is Abdul Rahman Yasin, a U.S. citizen who moved to Iraq in the 1960's and returned to the U.S. in 1992. After the 1993 WTC bombing, Yasin fled to Iraq and was given monthly salary and housing by Saddam Hussein's regime.

Other links

Links from my files posted on a previous thread

More links from Freeper BMC1

34 posted on 11/22/2005 10:04:54 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Weimdog
The Leak was what struck me in this article this morning. We are so much advanced in the maturity (read corruption and rot) of our systems than the Czechs that leaks of classified info to gain some political/personal advantage are a matter of course in D.C. And advantages are gained, the media hunt these leaks. This morning's Comical (SOURCE: their 'News Services' but the article is not available online):
Although Woodward is listed as an assistant managing editor, Howell said, he has no management duties."He comes and goes as he pleases, mostly writing his bestselling books on what happens behind the doors of power, and he reports only to Downie...", she wrote. "He is allowed to keep juicy stories to himself until his latest book is unveiled in the front page of the Post. He is the master of anonymous source."

Somebody, "behind the doors of power" has to feed these parasites, and then somebody out there salivates at the "juicy stories" that the parasites sell. Imagine, the Czechs are shocked at this state of things! A fine mess.

35 posted on 11/22/2005 10:12:54 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: TBall

Must read later


36 posted on 11/22/2005 10:13:34 AM PST by agincourt1415 (Democrats still lose)
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To: ravingnutter

The Iraq/Al Qaeda link seems to me to be a "slam-dunk", as Tenent might say.


37 posted on 11/22/2005 10:37:25 AM PST by Weimdog
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To: Weimdog
The Iraq/Al Qaeda link seems to me to be a "slam-dunk", as Tenent might say.

Yes, it is...unfortunately, the MSM has a worse memory than Scooter Libby, LOL!

38 posted on 11/22/2005 10:40:54 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Weimdog

Bookmarked. Thank you.


39 posted on 11/22/2005 10:50:36 AM PST by syriacus (US success at liberating Iraq outscores the "world community's" success at containing Saddam.)
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