Skip to comments.Pew Poll: Media Elites Think Iraq a Mistake, Doomed to Fail
Posted on 11/22/2005 1:23:12 PM PST by hipaatwo
Poll results here. This from the Media Research Center analysis:
The news media elite are to the left of the public in several policy areas related to the war on terrorism, a poll "of opinion leaders and the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press in collaboration with the Council on Foreign Relations," found. While 56 percent of the public believes "efforts to establish a stable democracy" in Iraq will succeed, 63 percent of the news media elite think it will fail; a plurality of 48 percent of the public think going to war in Iraq was correct, but 71 percent of the news media elite consider it a bad decision; the public is split evenly at 44 percent on whether the Iraq war has helped or hurt the war on terrorism, but an overwhelming 68 percent of the news media elite say it has hurt; and 46 percent of the public believe torture of terrorist suspects is often or sometimes "justified," 78 percent of the news media elite contend it is "rarely" or "never" justified. Plus, news media elite approval of Bush's job performance at a lowly 21 percent is half that of the public's.
(Thanks to MB reader Mark E. for the tip)
proves even more that the Media elite is out of touch with most of the rest of society.
The media elite are not out of touch, the media elite are plotting against the rest of the U.S. society.
I'm sure it's news to the "media elite", but, well, duh!
They actually had to do a poll on that ?
The media elites are to the left of the pUblic in EVERYTHING.
I would say if they are plotting against the rest of US society, then they are out of touch... IMHO
They can see the future, eh? Right up there with Miss Cleo.
Speaking of failure, how have those media stocks been doing lately?
Sounds like the 'media' is in the game of trying to brainwash the general population into seeing things their way. Doesn't sound like it is working.
true... we see it in every paper and every news cast...to do a poll to find this opinion out from the media elite is like doing a poll to see if Alcholics in a Rehab clinic want a beer...
I can't stand the term "media Elites" Take out the E and that's what they really stand for!
Dictionary terms for today:
Pedialite: clear liquid fluid used to help sick and diarhea-ridden children.
Medialites: clearly liquid brain filled media ghouls used to help sick and diarhea of the mouth liberals achieve their goals.
What is a media elite?
I mean...have they ever carried a rifle and walked a post? what makes them military strategy gurus?
They're only jurnocrats from Columbia school of journalism or some other BS school...and come on, we all know journos weren't the sharpest tools in the shed in college, so, IMHO they're not experts or sage's on anything. They're only relevant in their own mind and, basically, propagandists.
because that is how they view themselves... the run the news soo they feel they are above everyone else and know all.
November 21, 2005 - The following is a letter sent to the Mother of an American soldier currently serving with the 101st Airborne Division in Iraq. Per his request - via his Mother - we offer it to you.
Special thanks to Jack and Carol Ott for getting this to us:
Mom, Be my voice. I want this message heard. It is mine and my platoons to the country. A man I know lost his legs the other night. He is in another company in our battalion. I can no longer be silent after watching the sacrifices made by Iraqis and Americans everyday. Send it to a congressman if you have to. Send it to FOX news if you have to. Let this message be heard please
My fellow Americans, I have a task for those with the courage and fortitude to take it. I have a message that needs not fall on deaf ears. A vision the blind need to see. I am not a political man nor one with great wisdom. I am just a soldier who finds himself helping rebuild a country that he helped liberate a couple years ago.
I have watched on television how the American public questions why their mothers, fathers, brothers, and sisters are fighting and dying in a country 9000 miles away from their own soil. Take the word of a soldier, for that is all I am, that our cause is a noble one. The reason we are here is one worth fighting for. A cause that has been the most costly and sought after cause in our small span of existence on our little planet. Bought in blood and paid for by those brave enough to give the ultimate sacrifice to obtain it. A right that is given to every man, woman, and child I believe by God. I am talking of freedom.
Freedom. One word but yet countless words could never capture its true meaning or power. For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know. I read that once and it couldnt be more true. Its not the average Americans fault that he or she is blind and deaf to the taste of freedom. Most Americans are born into their God given right so it is all they ever know. I was once one of them. I would even dare to say that it isnt surprising that they take for granted what they have had all their life. My experiences in the military however opened my eyes to the truth.
Ironically you will find the biggest outcries of opposition to our cause from those who have had no military experience and havent had to fight for freedom. I challenge all of those who are daring enough to question such a noble cause to come here for just a month and see it first hand. I have a feeling that many voices would be silenced.
I watched Cindy Sheehan sit on the Presidents lawn and say that America isnt worth dying for. Later she corrected herself and said Iraq isnt worth dying for. She badmouthed all that her son had fought and died for. I bet he is rolling over in his grave.
Ladies and gentleman I ask you this. What if you lived in a country that wasnt free? What if someone told you when you could have heat, electricity, and water? What if you had no sewage systems so human waste flowed into the streets? What if someone would kill you for bad-mouthing your government? What if you werent allowed to watch TV, connect to the internet, or have cell phones unless under extreme censorship? What if you couldnt put shoes on your childs feet?
You need not to have a great understanding of the world but rather common sense to realize that it is our duty as HUMAN BEINGS to free the oppressed. If you lived that way would you not want someone to help you????
The Iraqis pour into the streets to wave at us and when we liberated the cities during the war they gathered in the thousands to cheer, hug and kiss us. It was what the soldiers in WW2 experienced, yet no one questioned their cause!! Saddam was no better than Hitler! He tortured and killed thousands of innocent people. We are heroes over here, yet Americans badmouth our President for having us here.
Every police station here has a dozen or more memorials for officers that were murdered trying to ensure that their people live free. These are husbands, fathers, and sons killed every day. What if it were your country? What would your choice be? Everything we fight for is worth the blood that may be shed. The media never reports the true HEROISM I witness everyday in the Iraqis. Yes there are bad ones here, but I assure you they are a minuscule percent. Yet they are a number big enough to cause worry in this countrys future.
I have watched brave souls give their all and lose their lives and limbs for this cause. I will no longer stand silent and let the deaf and blind be the only voice shouting. Stonewall Jackson once said, All that I have, all that I am is at the service of the country. For these brave souls who gave the ultimate sacrifice, including your son Cindy Sheehan, I will shout till I can no longer. These men and women are heroes. Their spirit lives on in their military and they will never be forgotten. They did not die in vain but rather for a cause that is larger than all of us.
My fellow countrymen and women, we are not overseas for our country alone but also another. We are here to spread democracy and freedom to those who KNOW the true taste of it because they fight for it everyday. You can see the desire in their eyes and I am honored to fight alongside them as an Infantryman in the 101st Airborne.
Freedom is not free, but yet it is everyones right to have. Ironic isnt it? That is why we are here. Though you will always have the skeptics, I know that most of our military will agree with this message. Please, at the request of this soldier spread this message to all you know. We are in Operation Iraqi Freedom and that is our goal. It is a cause that I and thousands of others stand ready to pay the ultimate sacrifice for because, Cindy Sheehan, freedom is worth dying for, no matter what country it is! And after the world is free only then can we hope to have peace.
SGT Walter J. Rausch and 1st Platoon 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) >
I'm shocked,SHOCKED I tell you..They never let it show/S
In true Best of the Web Today fashion:
You don't say:
Media Elites Think Iraq a Mistake, Doomed to Fail
As long as their preconception doesn't effect their objective reporting, I don't think it's any big deal.
And we needed a poll to tell us this. I thought it was obvious.
Apparently, because they get to 'publish' the media (in whateveryoulike form). Regardless, I wonder the same thing you do.
These jerks are hoping and praying that we lose in Iraq, simply to destroy the The Bush Man and regain power in the White House. Their problem is we are on the verge of victory and this Iraq vote in December will get us a step closer. By winning in Iraq we will not only insure liberty & freedom there but devastate the DemocRAT Party.
Well I thought that was a given by saying they were out of touch with society.... :)
And MSM wonders? Try buying a vowel on occasion.
These,no doubt,are the same "media elites" who,in 1992,went
89% for The Most Ethical President In History while the general public went 43% in his favor.
During the war, before the occupation, this bias was blatant:
Once the occupation started it continued.
Holy waste of polling time.
They needed a poll to figure this out?
Who in the heck ever gave the media the name media elites? They are news people sitting behind a desk giving US the news. That's all. Now we don't even need them anymore. Elites? My foot theya re elites. They are IDIOTES. :)
if it wasnt for the US military, there would be no "media elite"
Because it is assumed they have so little actual work to do that they have enough time to sit around and decide what is best for us.
It sounds like they are doing their best to turn this into a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Another big shuffle of deck chairs aboard the M.S.M. Titanic.
Liberals are by definition cowards, IMO.
The results of this poll are predictable.
Media biased to the left?? Say it Ain't so...
Ursine mammals leave post digested organic material in arboreal regions.
100% certain Pope is Catholic
Blackhawks still stink
May they rot in Dhimmitude.
On the Other Hand ... (William F. Buckley Jr. on Iraq
....note that many people assured me that a constitution would never be ratified in Iraq. They were, by and large, the same people who assured me that were the U.S. to invade Iraq, the Arab street would erupt in a world jihad.
"The supposedly impossible thing in fact happened, and the dead certainty failed to take place. Even more curious is how little difference that has made in the --- is the word appropriate? --- debate. Reality --- what actually happened or seemed to happen --- somehow hasn't counted for much when it comes to informing opinion on Iraq. Six months from the election takes us to 15 June. It would be interesting to step back and specify some milestones by which we could judge the campaign: what developments, were they accomplished, would lead us to judge the venture a success? What are some alternative eventualities that would compel us to acknowledge failure?
"We could scribble a few such criteria on a sheet of paper now and seal it in an envelope marked, 'Do not open until June 15, 2006.' Then, on a balmy summer eve, we could have an envelope-opening ceremony and see where things stood. I suspect the backers of Mr. Bush would have something to celebrate."
The "elite media" and the dems keep moving the goalposts..I think this exercise would be interesting..
I live in a community where many of our military live. Many of them have been to Iraq and Afghanistan. The stories they tell about our successes over there NEVER make it into the leftist media. We are effecting an incredible transformation in these two nations and all the defeatist media can report is the occasional car bomb or suicide attack - as if that is all that is happening over there.
The defeatist media is seditious at best, treasonous at worst. They do all they can to lose the war by undermining morale and subverting the war effort. Nothing they say can be taken at face value. Our people in the Middle East are performing magnificently and deserve praise and recognition for their work. They will never get it from the defeatist media or the dimrat party.
Are any members of the media not elite? And if so, who are they and what are they called? The media commoners? The media non-elites? The poor slob media? Someone help me with this.
Got my own answer: they're called Fox News.
yeah those that are not part of the elite in the media...are either called Interns or janitors...
I wonder who paid for this poll?