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No new hips or knees for fat patients (UK)
The Times (London) ^ | November 23, 2005

Posted on 11/23/2005, 4:25:49 AM by Mount Athos

FAT people will no longer be given hip and knee replacements on the NHS in East Suffolk. GPs and consultants have agreed not to refer anyone classed as obese to a specialist until they have lost weight to help to save the area’s primary care trusts £47.9 million.

A team of GPs and senior consultants from Ipswich Hospital spent nine months investigating ways to address the trusts’ financial problems and drew up a list of criteria that must be met before treatment for conditions such as varicose veins and glue ear.

The team agreed that patients with a body mass index of 30 or more — recognised by the World Health Or- ganisation as obese — should not be referred to surgeons for hip and knee replacements.

In Britain, a fifth of men and a quarter of women are estimated to be obese. A 5ft 10in man weighing 15st 3lb and a 5ft 3in woman weighing 12st 7lb would be classed as obese by this measure.

Dr Brian Keeble, the Director of Public Health for Ipswich PCT and the leader of the team that devised the guidlines, said: “Patients who are overweight and obese do worse after operations. Lighter people tend to do better in terms of hip replacements not failing.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: health; medicine; obesity; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:25:50 AM by Mount Athos
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To: John Williams
No one likes fatties anyhow.
3 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:28:43 AM by Chickensoup (Turk...turk...turk....turk....turk...turkey!!!!!!)
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To: Mount Athos

Next they won't treat ugly people, but they will always treat stupid people.


This is an outrage. They are rationing medical care.


4 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:29:18 AM by FairOpinion
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To: Mount Athos

They will just get scooters like they do in the US.


5 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:29:25 AM by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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To: Mount Athos
FAT people will no longer be given hip and knee replacements on the NHS in East Suffolk.

So they are no longer providing medical care for disorders that are caused by unhealthy lifestyles.

Okay. When are they going to stop providing medications to those who get AIDS and other venereal diseases?

Ohhhhh...that would be "bad" and "mean-spirited," wouldn't it? Riiiiiight.

6 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:30:16 AM by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: FairOpinion
They are rationing medical care.

Hey, they gotta cut corners to pay for all the drug addicts and AIDS-infected gays somehow!

7 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:31:03 AM by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Mount Athos
5ft 10in man weighing 15st 3lb and a 5ft 3in woman weighing 12st 7lb would be classed as obese by this measure.

What is that? 153lbs. and 127 lbs.? So unless your skinny as a rail, you won't get anything.

8 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:31:11 AM by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Mount Athos

OK, I had to look up "glue ear":

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068746/


9 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:31:20 AM by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: Mount Athos

5ft 10in man weighing 15st 3lb --- 258 lbs


10 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:31:42 AM by FairOpinion
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To: Brett66

a stone is 14 pounds, not 10


11 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:32:42 AM by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

I know a woman in Canada who has leukemia.
Want to know how the health care system is treating her?

..They gave her a companion dog and some pills.


12 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:34:48 AM by Humidston (Sweet dreams, TC. Save me a seat, ok?)
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To: Mount Athos
If they have a legit glandular condition, then they should get whatever treatment they can, within reason. If they're some quarter ton behemoth with a Big Mac addiction, then they need to get off the sofa and quit spooning off the rest of us.


13 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:34:55 AM by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: Mount Athos

Guess that leaves Hillary......nah, too easy.


14 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:35:44 AM by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Mount Athos
Not that this will ever affect me... However...

Do you mean to tell us that we can build things like this, but we can't build a heavy-duty knee?!?!

15 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:35:51 AM by LibWhacker
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To: Humidston

What? Please explain!


16 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:36:14 AM by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: Brett66

After conversion, I noticed that this is discrimination against men, in addition to discrimination against overweight people.

5ft 10in man weighing 15st 3lb -- 258 lbs

and a 5ft 3in woman weighing 12st 7lb -- 211 lbs.


Isn't a 211 lb woman who is only 5 ft 3 in more overweight, than a 5 ft 10 in man, who weighs 258 lbs?

The whole thing is totally preposterous.

Let the fat people just suffer and die.

What is next?! Just think how much money they can save, if they just kill all the disabled people, as Hitler tried to do.



17 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:37:10 AM by FairOpinion
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To: Mount Athos

"a stone is 14 pounds, not 10"

I went to a conversion site, where it said it's 17.

But if it's only 14, that means even moderately overweight people don't get medical care.


18 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:38:14 AM by FairOpinion
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To: Viking2002

" then they need to get off the sofa and quit spooning off the rest of us. "

And how do you know that the "fat person" is not the one who is paying the most in taxes and isn't getting anything out of the medical care?


19 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:39:33 AM by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

a stone is 14 pounds.

The 5'10" man = 213 pounds

5'3" woman = 175 pounds


20 posted on 11/23/2005, 4:39:45 AM by Mount Athos
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