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To: anotherview

Israel is in desperate need of a new paradigm. It is as if the Israelis and Palestinians are on dual tracks of national suicide. The Israelis by surrendering the Arabs by Jihadism. Remember when we heard the Gaza pullout was actually toughness not surrender. What bs that turned out to be. They gave up the Philadelphia route, they gave up on monitoring the crossings from Gaza now they are going to allow the Arabs passage from Gaza to West Bank across what little is left of Israel. This is worse than pre 67 Israel. Then at least they had some sort of sovereignty over their nation. Worse there is nobody on the horizon to stem the tide. The Israelis will become increasingly dependent on the USA which is becoming increasingly resentful of the obligations they have. I see no good in the near future.


5 posted on 11/24/2005 10:45:12 AM PST by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom

I can't think of anything you've written here which I agree with. Not a thing.

As far as a new paradigm is concerned, at least in a political sense that is happening. There was genuine disgust with both Labour and Likud in Israel, both of which were viewed as corrupt and moribund. That is what lead to the rise of Shinui in the last election.

Now, suddenly we have a four way race with, one would hope, a very different cast of characters. Sure, the Prime Minister is still there, as we would expect, but he has made his political direction clear and will have a list behind him that agrees with him and is not tainted will all that has passed within Likud.

Likud may also have a new face if Shaul Mofaz can defeat Bibi in the primary. I happen to thing the Defense Minister would make an excellent Prime Minister.

Labour has moved towards the hard left with Amir Peretz. He never won more than two seats with Am Echad so I fail to see how his winning the leadership race energized Labour, but the polls seem to say Labour will make gains in the next election. (I hope the polls are wrong about this.) In any case, he represents a new generation of leadership and a return for Labour to it's socialist roots.

Shinui is Shinui and Tommy Lapid will always make things interesting with fiery rhetoric. If their campaign is half as clever as their last one I would not write Shinui off as some in Israel are.

As far as Gaza is concerned, it is all about defining our own borders and assuring that a Jewish state remains majority Jewish. I do not see this as worse than pre-1967. We had a well armed and thoroughly hostile enemy in Egypt under Nasser. The Palestinians are a disorganized rabble who fight among themselves. The Palestinians may be headed for national suicide but we are most definitely not.


7 posted on 11/24/2005 10:53:18 AM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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