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Posted on 11/26/2005 9:50:03 AM PST by smoothsailing
Bad tippers and bitter waitresses
By Jack Kemp (not the politician) Nov. 26, 2005
Once, years ago, I heard a heard a lecture by a rabbi on dating. He advised that if your date treats a waiter/waitress or a busboy in a condescending and mean manner, that is the way they will treat you after a while if you were to marry them. Today's New York Post had an article about cheap celebrity tippers listed on the website www.bitterwaitress.com.
I went there to see how many well known political "champions of the little guy and gal" rated. I cross referenced the website with liberals from Bernard Goldberg's One Hundred People Screwing Up America.
Let's see. First up, Michael Moore, 3% tip.
Tipper's Name: Michael Moore (yes THAT Michael Moore)
Where it happened: Los Angeles
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $452.25 / $17.74 / 3%
OK I ran my ass off for this guy and his friends. Funny I didnt know this guy had friends, maybe they were kissups. 2.5 hours they spent shoveling food down their fat faces. Numerous refills. By the way MM is a pompous ass judging from his treatment of the staff.
Let's see again. Barbra Streisand, 2% tip.
Tipper's Name: Barbra Streisand
Where it happened: New York
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $457.00 / $10.00 / 2%
She demanded the best table, acting rude to everyone and then barely tipped.
Next "champion of the people," Jessie Jackson 9% tip.
Tipper's Name: Jesse Jackson
Where it happened: Kansas City
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $228.00 / $22.00 / 9%
What happened: rude,arrogant,demanding and cheap
Next up, Sen. John Kerry, 2% tip.
Tipper's Name: John F. Kerry
Where it happened: St. Louis
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $773.24 / $20.00 / 2%
Added $20.00 on the signature line and then scribbled a little note to vote for him. What a load of crap.
Kerry's former running mate, Sen. John Edwards, 2% tip.
Tipper's Name: John Edwards
Where it happened: Washington, D.C.
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $746.25 / $13.75 / 1%
This is the guy running for Vice President Sat in our private section for 3 1/2 hours and left less than 2%. Jackass.
Former VP Al Gore. 8% tip.
Tipper's Name: Former VP Al Gore
Where it happened: Alexandria, VA
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $40.00 / $3.50 / 8%
Al and Tipper Gore were regulars at the restaurant I used to work at. You'd think this would be cool, waiting on a former Vice President. And it would be, if not for the fact that Al Gore is cheap.
Last time they came in, Tipper actually spilled her beer on me (it's not smart to gesture wildly with a bottle of Corona on your table). She didn't apologizehe apologized for her. Still. Less than 10%. You'd think they'd know that the 'underclass' the Democrats claim to represent are people like waitresses in VA making $2.13 an hour. Guess not.
Lastly, Sean Penn, 0% tip. Nada. Zip. Zero.
Tipper's Name: Sean Penn
Where it happened: New Orleans
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $450.00 / $0.00 / 0%
Sean Penn is in New Orleans filming & came into my restaurant with 3 other people. Waited on them hand and foot. The bill $450.00 the tip: none. Cheapskate.
There you have it. The champions of "fairness" and "the little guy." Yes, President Bush and VP Cheney made the website as well. But who is claiming them as champions of the poor and oppressed victims, advocating extra government payments to make up for past suffering, etc.?
Thomas Lifson adds:
I have followed Bitter Waitress for years. It is well-known in the food and beverage industry, and at least at the upscale restaurants, it has a big following among the wait staff. When one of these bozos comes in, they usually will not treat them overtly rudely. But vengeance of another sort may sometimes occur. Let the diner beware.
Most people realize that watitrons (that's the non-sex-specific term favored theses days, believe it or not) are usually paid less than minimum wage, and that tips provide the margin of survival (to use leftist terminology) for them. To stiff a tip is to relegate someone to below minimum wage. This makes the behavior of these compassionate liberals all the more phony. Judge them by their deeds not their words.
I absolutely agree with Jack's rabbi that the best way to judge someone's character is to observe behavior with those who have no power or standing, and to do so in private in the case of celebrities and politicians. I have used this as a guide to friendships for almost my entire life, and it has proven highly reliable.
What kind of moron, who is a billionaire and running for President, grossly undertips?
A good tip might be worth a half dozen votes.
If Leftists weren't invariably atheists, they'd think they were God's gift to God.
The kind who thinks he's entitled to the Presidency because he's "so sophisticated" and "so progressive" and "so international", that's who.
There was another story about chartity giving with the same message earlier this week. The liberal states don't give...they expect another government program.
I told them I'm already rich. My life is blessed.
I think EVERYONE in life should work in a restaurant setting. It gives you an understanding of actually WORKING for your pay. When these liberal wealthy folk stiff them - shame on them!
Bonds* and other coddled type just always assume some worshipper is picking up the tab.
LOL! That's a great line, PC, and how true!
I think part of the problem is that none of these "special" people has ever been a waiter, or held any other real-life job. People who've been there are much more likely to be polite to a waiter (and tip an adequate one generously), and to be pleasant to a store clerk, security guard, etc.
(Note to self, make sure all offspring work at least one service job.)
And if, as chef, I get tipped by a client, I split the tip with the kitchen, including the dish-washer. $600 was the largest tip I ever received. My kitchen was very happy that night.
Many don't realize that not only do they earn well below minimum wage, they also have to give a percentage of their food SALES to the busboy and bartender.
Leftists, it seems, are only generous with other people's money.
That is why they always want more of YOUR money.
That's what I thought about. Seems the poor are more willing to help the poor. Liberals have always been more talk than action, though.
Of all of those I can't believe the John Kerry one-after all it is not his money-it's Theeeeraaaaza'a he didn't lift a finger for it-you would think he, as is his fashion, would be a little more "liberal" with it.
I always ask the following question on tip threads: when calculating the 20%, does one use the pre- or post-tax total?
A blast from the past -- this gem was left out:
You may want to be wary of foods such as potato salad or tartar sauce in restaurants from now on.
I agree. And have the experience of some asshat with a condescending attitude trying to show off to some date. I mouthed back to one and luckily my boss backed me up.
Oh yeah, if I'm in a restaurant and see they're slow - I tip more.
If I sit in a table for longer than a normal meal time - I tip more.
*shrug* Just the way it should be really. I am their employer at that point in time.
I was never a waitress, but I was a hostess. I got to hear the wait staff complain about people & their tipping habits.
Who sets this scale? Awhile back it was 15%. 10% used to be acceptable. It wouldn't surprise me if this is coming from the left. If your service is good most will tip accordingly but why should they feel obligated for 20%?
I'll have to defend John Kerry here. I did the math, and he tipped 2 and a half percent, not just 2 percent.
pre-tax, definately. and hubby, who is a very generous tipper, always says you should only tip 10% on the bar/beverage part of the bill
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Just wondering, have you ever worked in a restaurant?
This is great!!!
A fair tip is between 20% of the pre-tax and 15% of the post tax.
I expected to see Clinton on this list. All I can figure is he must give a ten percent tip, but he is probably spending someone else's money, and he probably leaves with the silverware in his pocket.
You had to even ask? This sounds like the person who gets 6 of her friends together for a 3 hour lunch at a nice restaurant and tries to leave coins as a tip. I ALWAYS added the 15% on large groups of women after losing huge amounts at lunches as they camped on my tables drinking coffee and splitting dishes.
Its called the Wellstone disease. They're always generous with someone else's cash.
Share this story with these cheapskates, it has been around for years:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this.
The first four men -- the poorest -- would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1, the sixth would pay $3, the seventh $7, the eighth $12, the ninth $18, and the tenth man -- the richest -- would pay $59.
That's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until one day, the owner threw them a curve (in tax language a tax cut).
"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." So now dinner for the ten only cost $80.00.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.
So the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six -- the paying customers? How could They divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?"
The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, Then the fifth man and The sixth man would end up being PAID to eat their meal. So the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of his earlier $59. Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free.
But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man, then, pointing to the tenth. "But he got $7!". "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man, "I only saved a dollar, too, ........It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!".
"That's true!" shouted the seventh man," why should he get $7 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!".
Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night he didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered, a little late what was very important. They were FIFTY-TWO DOLLARS short of paying the bill! Imagine that!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college instructors, is how the tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.
It's not that hard, I take the total AFTER TAX and give 20% of that. More if the service was above and beyond. It's very rare that service is bad...or intentionally rude. In fact, I can't really remember a time I was not happy with service. But I'm easy to please!!
I know what you mean. Unless the service is incredibly ghastly, I always tip 18%-20%. I have left no tip exactly once. I was one of three customers at an IHOP, I waited over an hour before my meal appeared. The waiter said he forgot to turn in my order slip, but he did not apologize and seemed exasperated with me for having the nerve to inquire how much longer it would be. Finally, when I asked for tartar sauce with my fish, he stomped off to return with the tartar sauce, which he slammed on the table before stomping away again. Needless to say, he did not receive a tip-and I mentioned on the customer survey that such treatment was probably the reason that they only had three customers in the restaurant.
I generally get it.
Since I'm in the business, and most of my meals at top-end establishments are comp-ed, I make sure that I find out what the total would have been, and tip accordingly. I've gone out with a friend for a 'free' dinner that included paired wines for each course, and would have cost $300 had it not been a comp. I tipped out at 25% that night.
I always use the post-tax total.
My minimum basic, "no frills not great service" tip is 15%. Overtly rude service gets no tip.
I give 20% nearly all the time, and in cases of exceptional service (special orders handled correctly, service like new drinks without asking, good attitude/personality that adds to the environment, I have given up to 50%.
My two sisters are outstanding waitstaff, and I work in healthcare, which is (or should be) heavily customer service oriented. I know what good service is, and I think people should be lavishly rewarded for great service, if one can afford to do it. (some people really can't...)
That said...I am not surprised by liberals who appear on that site. To be the devils advocate, remember the name of the site...:)
i've only ever done this once in the 25 years i've been paying for my own food at restaurants, and it was a couple of weeks ago... the waitress was GROSSLY incompetent... i left a 27-cent tip... i didn't want her to think i had forgotten by leaving nothing... and i didn't want her to think i was a bad tipper by leaving a couple of bucks... but this has only happened once...
What's really amazing is they actually paid their tabs. They usually expect everything to be comped.
BTW, I've been in restaurants many times in such instances where the waiter neglects to inform the person picking up the bill that a tip has already been included, knowing that many customers will unknowingly tip an additional 15-20%.
I'm surprised none of them pulled a Hillary Klinton and just walked out without paying in front of the entire staff and then sneered about it when asked by the media. Now that's arrogance! Of course, I haven't been to the website yet, so who knows what I'll find?
I then made him apologize to his Father, in front of everyone by telling him that I'd leave if he were to do so. He did, but then the parents told me they didn't want me to leave. The kid stormed to his room. The parents called me the next day and thanked me (can you imagine). But I was never invited to their home again! LOL!