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Nepal to probe mystery 'Buddha' boy
HT.com ^ | Kathmandu, November 27, 2005|13:23 IST | Reuters

Posted on 11/27/2005 2:11:07 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

Authorities in Nepal urged religious groups and scientists on Sunday to help solve the mystery of a meditating teenaged boy who some believe is an incarnation of Buddha.

At least 100,000 devotees from Nepal and neighbouring India have flocked in recent weeks to a dense forest in southeastern Nepal to see 15-year-old Ram Bahadur Bamjon, who, his associates say, has been meditating without food or water for six months.

Shanta Raj Subedi, district administrator of Bara, 150 km (95 miles) southeast of Kathmandu and where the boy is meditating, said he had requested the Lumbini Development Trust, a Buddhist panel, and the Royal Nepal Academy of Science and Technology to get to the bottom of the mystery.

"We want to investigate claims that the boy has survived for so long without food or drink," Subedi said.

Bamjon sits cross-legged beneath a "pipal" tree, with his eyes closed in meditation. He does not speak and followers are only allowed to see him from a distance of 50 metres (165 feet).

The young mystic is hidden from public view at night behind a curtain drawn by his followers. Doctors observing from a distance have said the boy is breathing normally but is weak.

Local journalist Govinda Devkota, who has visited the site, said the boy sits with a shawl across his chest from armpit to shoulder, in the same posture as Buddha is shown in pictures.

The number of visitors had reached up to 10,000 a day but fewer people are going to the retreat now, he said.

"He sits motionless from dawn to dusk when visitors are allowed to see him. This demands something," said Devkota. "But whether he is an incarnation of Buddha, I have doubts because we don't know what he does at night. This must be investigated."

His mother, Maya Devi -- the same name as that of Buddha's mother -- said Bamjon, the third of her seven children, is a quiet boy who kept aloof from friends.

"Initially, I was worried about him. But now I am happy. He is in devotion to Buddha," Devi told Nepali daily, Rajdhani.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buddha; god; india; miracle; nepal; religion

1 posted on 11/27/2005 2:11:07 AM PST by CarrotAndStick
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To: CarrotAndStick

Well it is probably as legitimate as visions of Mary or other apparitions that appear to be indemic to every culture.

The whole Dalai Lama thing is also quite an interesting phenomenon too.

But, if you keep in mind what the Hindus beleive will happen with the 10th incarnation of Vishnu, perhaps we can delay his return a bit.


2 posted on 11/27/2005 2:24:48 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit ("A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

What they don't show you are the squirrels that feed him at night.


3 posted on 11/27/2005 2:29:17 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

indemic = endemic (note to self: use spell check)


4 posted on 11/27/2005 2:33:55 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit ("A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: The Red Zone
There's not a lot of meat on squirrels, but I suppose enough to keep him alive.

Regardless, remaining motionless for the entire daytime for several weeks is a pretty impressive feat.

I somehow doubt that he is supernaturally surviving without water.
5 posted on 11/27/2005 2:36:18 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit ("A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: CarrotAndStick

did they rub his belly for luck?


6 posted on 11/27/2005 4:02:03 AM PST by tomakaze (Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I somehow doubt that he is supernaturally surviving without water.




It's just not possible. Just another get rich scheme, in a land where that is entirely possible. Take the Dali Lama for instance. The guy is a complete goof-ball, but it beats working for a living I guess. He gets anything he wants.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 4:04:42 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: CarrotAndStick

Seriously folks........

A teenager that doesn't move or allow anyone within 50 feet of his personal space...??

Been there, done that.

This is Nepal's version of a sideshow.


8 posted on 11/27/2005 4:07:23 AM PST by wunderkind54
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To: CarrotAndStick

"probe"

Ya gotta love those headline writers.


9 posted on 11/27/2005 4:13:20 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"indemic = endemic (note to self: use spell check)"

In this case, you should not have. Was a good pun.


10 posted on 11/27/2005 4:19:20 AM PST by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: All
The biggest problem with this story is that when Gautam Siddharta achieved enlightenment and became Buddha, he broke from the cycle of birth and death. By definition, The Buddha cannot be re-born.
11 posted on 11/27/2005 4:21:45 AM PST by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

As someone mentioned, this buddha is not THE Buddha.


12 posted on 11/27/2005 4:26:39 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
...remaining motionless for the entire daytime for several weeks is a pretty impressive feat.

You haven't seen an avarage US teenager in front of the television or a video game, have you?
13 posted on 11/27/2005 4:35:05 AM PST by wolfpat (To, Two, Too: Learn the difference.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

In that case, they should not call him Buddha.


14 posted on 11/27/2005 4:35:11 AM PST by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: CarrotAndStick
Rhetorical questions......where is the Nepalese version of Child and Family Services? Do they even have one?

In this country, law enforcement would have swooped in, put this kid on a gurney, taken him to a hospital and then arrested his parents.

Glorified in song, art, poetry, movies, in unconcerned media articles such as this, and romanticised in the minds of 1960-ish hippies, most third-world "religions" are actually savage, horrifying and kinky.

Leni

15 posted on 11/27/2005 4:52:04 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: CarrotAndStick

So in the east someone is holy by sitting and doing nothing? I never did get that.


16 posted on 11/27/2005 5:17:00 AM PST by DarkSavant ("Life is hilariously cruel" - Bender)
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To: MinuteGal
"Glorified in song, art, poetry, movies, in unconcerned media articles such as this, and romanticised in the minds of 1960-ish hippies, most third-world "religions" are actually savage, horrifying and kinky."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........
ah hem, you have confused Buddhists with Islamo fascist,
Buddhism is not savage, or horrifying and only Kinky Buddhist are kinky..many of the Eastern mystical religions are by design systems to avoid inter personnel conflicts for a culture living in very crowded feudal societies.
17 posted on 11/27/2005 5:17:21 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
I'm not confusing anything. It depends on how you look at cults. Horrifying, savage and kinky things do not necessarily mean physical abuse.

For instance, hours of robotic meditation and/or mind-numbing, brain-washing hypnotic, trance-like sessions every day to me are a horrifying aspect of several "religions" no matter how they are sugar-coated and romanticised.

Would you teach your your children these daily mystical incantations along with Passiveness 101?

Leni

18 posted on 11/27/2005 5:35:04 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
"Would you teach your your children these daily mystical incantations along with Passiveness 101"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.........
Nope and have not. brain washing and hypnotic trace like sessions you are not referring to the current movie and music videos loosely referred to Pop culture?? Buddhism is not a threat to anyone of balanced mind..if you are mentally sick then any belief system can be harmful.
19 posted on 11/27/2005 5:42:23 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: MinuteGal
.......most third-world "religions" are actually savage, horrifying and kinky.

HA HA HA, I like your use of descriptives. I've never associated kinky with Buddhists.
I'm sure they are, but I've always viewed them as other than kinky or wierdo's.


TPD

20 posted on 11/27/2005 5:43:56 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Intelligent Design........()
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To: CarrotAndStick
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He sits motionless from dawn to dusk when visitors are allowed to see him. But ... we don't know what he does at night.




I do........


21 posted on 11/27/2005 5:44:38 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: MinuteGal

Oh jeezz, I guess I should have read farther before posting.

I didn't mean to butt into a conversation.......sorry.


22 posted on 11/27/2005 5:46:14 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Intelligent Design........()
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Regardless, remaining motionless for the entire daytime for several weeks is a pretty impressive feat.

Not if you're already dead, propped up and dryed out.
23 posted on 11/27/2005 5:49:22 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: ConsentofGoverned; ThreePuttinDude
Time to re-read the article and analyze the thinking going on regarding this child.

However, if any folks feel that the words MENTALLY "savage, horrifying or kinky" doesn't apply to their favorite third-world moon, rock, sun or mystical cult, I have no quarrel with that at all.

Peace be with you.

Leni

24 posted on 11/27/2005 6:29:34 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: CarrotAndStick
The young mystic is hidden from public view at night behind a curtain drawn by his followers.

The "followers" then bring him a big bowl of rice and a diet coke.

25 posted on 11/27/2005 6:32:58 AM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: CarrotAndStick; Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; Forte Runningrock; MinuteGal; humblegunner
Does he look like someone who hasn't eaten in 6 months?

Nepali boy Ram Bahadur Bamjon meditates in the village of Bara, 150 km (95 miles) southeast of the capital Kathmandu on November 20, 2005. Authorities in Nepal urged religious groups and scientists on Sunday to help solve the mystery of a meditating teenaged boy who some believe is an incarnation of Buddha. At least 100,000 devotees from Nepal and neighbouring India have flocked in recent weeks to a dense forest in southeastern Nepal to see 15-year-old Bamjon, who, his associates say, has been meditating without food or water for six months. Picture taken November 20, 2005. REUTERS/Stringer

26 posted on 11/27/2005 6:44:20 AM PST by sagar
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To: sagar
Does he look like someone who hasn't eaten in 6 months?

Put some glasses on him and he looks like Harry Potter.

27 posted on 11/27/2005 6:46:55 AM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: sagar
Does he look like someone who hasn't eaten in 6 months?

Pssst...nope! But then, the whole world is full of "miracle" stories!

28 posted on 11/27/2005 6:48:28 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: humblegunner
Put some glasses on him and he looks like Harry Potter.

LoL!

29 posted on 11/27/2005 6:49:22 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: sagar
Hi, Sagar.....of course, he doesn't. Just another example of the twisted minds associated with promoting this "religious" set-up.

American hippies will respectfully hang this picture on the walls of their pads and meditate before it all day.

Great theater.

Leni

30 posted on 11/27/2005 6:50:57 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: sagar

If I am not mistaken, the pose of the boy is the one attributed to Siddhartha when he was determined to either attain enlightenment or die trying - I forget what all of them are, but each pose of Buddha figurines represents some event in Siddhartha's journey and symbolically, an attitude or mental state.


31 posted on 11/27/2005 6:53:32 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: ko_kyi; MinuteGal; CarrotAndStick
There are two possible explanations.

1. it is a great hoax perpetrated by lamas on gullible religious folks

2. it is indeed true, the boy's metabolism has somehow shut down and his body does not require either nutrients and water. Not likely, as he looks healthy and nourished... his skin is little pale, but is not going blue like those starved people

Hmm, I'd go with #1.
32 posted on 11/27/2005 12:49:18 PM PST by sagar
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