Posted on 11/28/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by PatrickHenry
The fuel driving this science education debate is easy to understand. Scientists are suspicious that Christians are trying to insert religious beliefs into science.
They recognize that science must be free, not subject to religious veto. On the other hand, many Christians fear that science is bent on removing God from the picture altogether, beginning in the science classroom--a direction unacceptable to them.
They recognize that when scientists make definitive pronouncements regarding ultimate causes, the legitimate boundaries of science have been exceeded. For these Christians, intelligent design seems to provide protection against a perceived assault from science.
But does it really lend protection? Or does it supply yet another reason to question Christian credibility?
The science education debate need not be so contentious. If the intelligent design movement was truly about keeping the legitimate plausibility of a creator in the scientific picture, the case would seem quite strong.
Unfortunately, despite claims to the contrary, the Dover version of intelligent design has a different objective: opposition to evolution. And that opposition is becoming an increasing liability for Christians.
The reason for this liability is simple: While a growing array of fossils shows evolution occurring over several billion years, information arising from a variety of other scientific fields is confirming and extending the evolutionary record in thoroughly compelling ways.
The conclusions are crystal clear: Earth is very old. All life is connected. Evolution is a physical and biological reality.
In spite of this information, many Christians remain skeptical, seemingly mired in a naive religious bog that sees evolution as merely a personal opinion, massive scientific ruse or atheistic philosophy.
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God created humans separately to be in his image. Adam was created first, and Eve out of Adam. This is a personl act of a personal creator.
Man is the only creation not prefaced by And God Said. God formed man specifically and personally out of the dust of the earth. And has been caring for us specifically and personally ever since.
If your premise were true that would be an arguement. However, as the dreaded fundamentalist Bible believing evangelical, I believe that God has ultimate authorship, and that He wrote the text through the ancient scribes. They were just that, scribes writing the information given them. By God, not other ignorant ancients (and we can argue how ignorant the ancients really were)
All 66 books of the Bible hang together to tell one Story by one Author. THis is not true of the scattered writifgs of other religions. I trust the Author, not the scribes.
CNN had a special on I.D. Hearing what the Christian "teachers" had to say in the museum made me want to vomit. It is a disgrace the lies they feed to the kids. I understand they fear "Darwinism" as a tool of the left. But that is no excuse to debunk legitimate scientific evidence as fraud.
What legitimate scientific evidence? I am still waiting for legitimate scientific evidence to support evolution.
Huh? Why is that the choice? I do not understand how creation and evolution are mutually exclusive. Why can't you believe that God created the Earth and evolution is the result of His "intelligent design"?
Because if I believe that God created the earth, Why should I not believe He created it the way He said He did?
Which is harder, believing God created the earth, or once believing that, to believe He did it the way He told us He did?
(among other reasons)
My faith is not blind, but is has colored my entire existence.
I think you will find that those poeple drifted away from God and the truth, and not the other way around
I also do not believe the other texts and rituals are inspired by God, there is only one God and one truth, and people since the world began have not been left without a witness on the earth.
Evil and human rebellion color the world the same way my faith colors (I prefers transforms) me
But ultimately you are right. Your faith in God or lack of it colors your entire perspective. That is the choice we all have to make.
Instead of waiting for it, why not be proactive and look for it? There are many excellent books on the subject and decades worth of journal articles in the stacks of any decent University. Enough to occupy you for the rest of your natural life, actually.
I said legitimate scientific evidence. I have read most of the books and articles actually, as well as having been taught evolution extensively in the course of obtaining several degrees in science.
I still have not seen legitimate evidence for evolution. All of the evidence so far is broad reaching conjecture based on a few bones and fossils that are not even complete. And if you read the history of evolution, much of the "scientific" evidence is faulty and some of it is downright fraud.
No it is not. And it's not a true statement no matter how many times people make it.
If that's your understanding to the Theory of Evolution, then I seriously doubt you have done even a limited review of the material.
If it is not, where did the coumpounds necessary for evolution come from? I haven't heard there is another theory and am truly interested in hearing it. (If you can't tell, this subject is a passion of mine :-) )
Good Lord, not this again...
Do yourself a favor and do some research before you try to write about science again. You're not helping Christianity here.
Please tell me. Where is your fossil of an intermediate form?
Where is your skeleton of a supposed man ape (please, not just a jawbone and a couple of teeth)? Where is the proof of simple organic molecules combining into complex molecules and coming together in cells? Where is the evidence that any amino acid will combine into DNA and RNA (much less in the appropriate sequence to be meaningfull?)
Please present your evidence, but don't accuse me of not studying.
Also,If evolution is the driving force behind life existing, why have we not seen it occurring around us? Where are the new forms that should be springing out all over? And also, please distinguish between macro and micro evolution. I am
talking about change between species, not inside species.
I saw that - vomitworthy, it was indeed. I almost wished that the museum guy who was shadowing them had been less polite and more willing to jump in and challenge some of the canards on parade.
AS I understand it, evolution deals with just that, the origins of life. And if you want to explain how things came about without Creation, you have to explain the whole ball of wax to be cogent.
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