[Dimensio]

Ah but you see...there is no standard, only what we see, measure, taste, touch, and know to be repeatable...according to science;yet, the great Clintonius himself has set Webster at naught for having caused doubt as to what IS truly IS!

So you want to play semantic games and try and argume that there are no true "definitions", so anything can really be anything.

What a convoluted twisting of logic in an attempt to make a point that just isn't there.

[mdmathis6]

Convoluted by whose standard...yours?

Can science produce a moral standard or a virtue...can science prove a bank robber to be a loathsome menace to society or can it just measure the robber's neural activity by means of a PET scan?

The question is important, more than you know, for science can't measure a moral standard or a produce a Constitution and a Bill of Rights!