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France Upholds Law That Smooths History
AP ^ | 11/29/5 | NATHALIE SCHUCK

Posted on 11/29/2005 1:09:44 PM PST by SmithL

PARIS -- France's parliament voted Tuesday to uphold a law that puts an upbeat spin on the country's painful colonial past, ignoring complaints from historians and the former French territory of Algeria.

The law, passed quietly this year, requires school textbooks to address France's "positive role" in its former colonies.

France's lower house, in a 183-94 vote, rejected an effort by the opposition Socialists to kill the law. Passage would have been unusual, since the effort to overturn the law came from the conservative government's political enemies.

The law has embarrassed conservative President Jacques Chirac and threatens to delay the signing of a friendship treaty between France and the North African nation of Algeria. France's one-time colonial jewel won independence in 1962 after a brutal eight-year conflict France only recently called a war.

Education Minister Gilles de Robien said last month that textbooks would not be changed, despite the law. However, the Socialists said the measure was offensive to former colonies and French citizens with roots there, and should be erased.

The debate comes on the heels of three weeks of unrest by youths in France's poor suburbs — many of them immigrants or of North African origin. The troubles were widely seen as a desperate cry for equality by a population shunted to the margins of mainstream society.

Jean-Marc Ayrault, head of the Socialist group in the National Assembly, the lower chamber, said the law was a political and educational aberration.

"Today we can repair this mistake, because it is a mistake," he said on France-Inter radio before the debate.

"Our history, if we want it to be shared by French citizens as a whole, must recognize both glorious achievements, but also the darker moments with lucidity, without there being an official history decided by parliamentarians."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; worldhistory
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1 posted on 11/29/2005 1:09:45 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Why are all former French colonies such unhappy places?


2 posted on 11/29/2005 1:15:09 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: SmithL
"By continuously surrendering quickly, we save many Frenchman's lives."
3 posted on 11/29/2005 1:15:41 PM PST by Millee ("Life is just one damned thing after another" - Elbert Hubbard)
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4 posted on 11/29/2005 1:16:05 PM PST by FearlessFreep
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To: SmithL
France's parliament voted Tuesday to uphold a law that puts an upbeat spin on the country's painful colonial past, ignoring complaints from historians and the former French territory of Algeria.

Does that 'colonial past' in include the muslim riots in France a few weeks ago...

5 posted on 11/29/2005 1:20:01 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: SmithL
Frances' "painful colonial past" led to Vietnams' adoption of communism, Pol Pots' killing rage in Cambodia and the bloody Hutu-Tutsi genocidal rampage in Rwanda to name a few.

Don't know how it was painful for France other than they found it necessary to skulk back home.
6 posted on 11/29/2005 1:31:45 PM PST by freedom9
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To: freedom9
the bloody Hutu-Tutsi genocidal rampage in Rwanda

Rwanda and Burundi were Belgian colonies.

7 posted on 11/29/2005 1:39:34 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: SmithL
Yeah, your former colonials are so darned happy about what you've done for them, aren't they? I mean, they're just tooting "La Marseillaise" out their lower GI tracts, aren't they?
8 posted on 11/29/2005 1:42:07 PM PST by RichInOC ("With all that's going on in the world, isn't it time we got back to hating the French?")
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To: Unam Sanctam
"Rwanda and Burundi were Belgian colonies."

I stand corrected.
Thank you

But . . .

http://www.afrol.com/articles/16082 http://www.guardian.co.uk/rwanda/story/0,14451,1188187,00.html http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=23212

9 posted on 11/29/2005 1:56:52 PM PST by freedom9
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To: SmithL

The first step to a complete revision of history.


10 posted on 11/29/2005 2:02:46 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: SmithL
Will French school textbooks include a "positive role" during the Vichy years as well?

La collaboration d'état

11 posted on 11/29/2005 2:42:27 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Morris_Hattrick

Welcome to Free Republic.


13 posted on 11/29/2005 2:45:41 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: freedom9
Lebanon is another French success story...and don't forget Haiti, still struggling to get on its feet 200 years after winning independence from France.

Some of the grimmest figures for infant mortality and life expectancy in the world are found in the former French colonies. For example, for infant mortality (per 1,000 births):

Mali...118
Niger...122.7
Djibouti...105
Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast)...97.1

Compare Haiti (former French colony) with the Dominican Republic (former Spanish colony sharing the same island): Haiti's infant mortality rate is 74.4 vs. the Dominican Republic's 33.3.

14 posted on 11/29/2005 2:47:20 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Morris_Hattrick

What? No Vanity?
; )

Welcome to FR.


16 posted on 11/29/2005 3:11:56 PM PST by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: Morris_Hattrick

"Spoon-feeding a populace a sanitized history makes further learning impossible."

Like what newspapers do.

I don't know how anyone can take French historical scholarship seriously from now on.


17 posted on 11/29/2005 3:27:37 PM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Owl558

Like what newspapers do.

I don't know how anyone can take French historical scholarship seriously from now on.

Like we ever did !


18 posted on 11/29/2005 4:37:45 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: Verginius Rufus

France had more Arab and Muslim colonies than the rest of the world combined.


19 posted on 11/29/2005 5:24:57 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Granted, France had a lot of colonies, and many of them are predominantly Muslim, but I'm not sure they had more Muslim subjects than the British.

I have an old atlas which gives population figures...I'm not sure of the exact date but they seem to be around 1910 (the US figures are for the 1910 census and they include the German empire, which disappeared after WWI). This is what they have for the various European colonial powers (population):

British Empire: 434,686,650
French colonies: 54,240,700
Dutch colonies: 38,000,000
Belgian Congo: 15,500,000
German colonies: 14,546,000
Portuguese colonies: 9,675,000
Italian colonies: 1,767,000
Spanish colonies: 276,000
Danish colonies: 143,143

They have separate figures for Great Britain and Ireland, and for the self-governing dominions like Canada, so the figure for the British Empire is probably just for the non-self-governing colonies like India. British India probably had a lot more Muslims than all of the French colonies combined.

20 posted on 11/29/2005 7:25:20 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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