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Iran Nuclear Race Reaches Point of No Return
Israel National News ^ | 13:57 Nov 30, '05 / 28 Cheshvan 5766 | news service

Posted on 11/30/2005 7:59:36 AM PST by APRPEH

(IsraelNN.com) The Iranian nuclear arms race has reached a point of no return, stated the head of Israeli intelligence, Gen. Ze’evi Farkash, at a meeting of the Knesset Committee for Foreign Affairs and Defense. He believes that the current diplomatic window that would prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear arms is soon to close, even within a few weeks.

Gen. Farkash stated that diplomatic moves against a nuclear bomb in Iran were reaching a point of no return in terms of the Iranian nuclear arms race.

Farkash added that the Iranians had improved their technique of preparing centrifuges to a very advanced level, which is of some concern to the Israeli defense and diplomatic echelons.

Members of the committee expressed their concern due to the western countries’ inability to stem Iran’s race toward nuclear arms.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islamobombs; islamonuts; middleeast; nuclearwar
Who does Iran blow up first? Just asking but would the US have been more, less or (no difference) likely to have prevented Iran's nuclear program before the Iraq war? this has been watched and discussed for a few years and everyone had ample warning (that is, if the intelligence is accurate).
1 posted on 11/30/2005 7:59:38 AM PST by APRPEH
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To: APRPEH

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2 posted on 11/30/2005 8:04:02 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: APRPEH

Risky, but a group of powers need to go in and take out the facilities. Perhaps take out the Iranian regime at the same time. Put Iraq and Iran in our camp. It's the only way.


3 posted on 11/30/2005 8:05:15 AM PST by Williams
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To: Williams

It really is Israel's move to attack first. Then Iran attacks Israel. Then the USA protects Israel.

But we need the Iraqi elections first. We really do.


4 posted on 11/30/2005 8:07:25 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: Dark Wing; Dog Gone; Shermy

ping


5 posted on 11/30/2005 8:09:49 AM PST by Thud
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To: Williams

Also...the situation in Venezuela is a related issue.

If the VZ elections on the 5th are boycotted and the world's conservatives try to say that Chavez is no longer legitimate, then the left can say the Iraqi government is not legitimate if the Sunnis boycott in Iraq on the 15th.

I cannot believe the right in VZ is so happy about boycotting the elections there. What is their plan?


6 posted on 11/30/2005 8:11:00 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: admin

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7 posted on 11/30/2005 8:16:45 AM PST by APRPEH (DPP is A OK)
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To: APRPEH; GermanBusiness

If we have reached the "point of no return", before we make a first strike - which probably would fail to eliminate all the weapons or capability they have- we need to protect our allies that are within Iran's reach (Israel). How do we protect Israel?....The same way the Taliban, Hussein, and al queda protect themselves. We need to send all of the Iranian regimes allies that we hold prisoner to Israel. Build a dozen "Club Gitmos" in Israel. Will Iran kill allies to nuke Jerusalem?...............Well, I guess they would, so scratch that idea.


8 posted on 11/30/2005 8:16:47 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: GermanBusiness
It really is Israel's move to attack first. Then Iran attacks Israel. Then the USA protects Israel.

Sorry, but that last item should read "Then the USA avenges Israel." Look at the map. Unless it is extremely low yield, someone popping a nuke or two over there will render most of the area uninhabitable since it would likely be a ground burst with heavy fallout. An air burst wouldn't be much better but that would allow a point of origin to be determined. As such, expect it to be launched from a country other than the point of origin of the device.

IMHO the only way to keep Israel safe other than their own doomsday plan would be to preannounce a list of targets regardless of who popped the nuke - i.e. if Israel goes, so does Mecca, Tehran, etc. - then again, that might just fit into the plans of someone hoping to provoke the end game of civilization.

No, the only thing to do is cauterize regimes seeking nukes before they get them.

9 posted on 11/30/2005 8:22:40 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("I got the gun honey, you want me to shoot him?" Anne Mitchell, Albany, GA)
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To: APRPEH

The Bush doctrine of pre-empting emerging threats does not require the intelligence to be accurate. A presumptive threat of sufficient seriousness will suffice.

If the rest of the world thinks that either the US or Israel will wait until a smuggled Iranian nuclear weapon goes off in some western city or for the Iranians to strike directly at Israel with a nuclear missile...they've got another think coming.


10 posted on 11/30/2005 8:39:23 AM PST by Captain Rhino (If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense!)
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To: APRPEH

I think the more appropriate question would be, "Who will blow up Iran first?"


11 posted on 11/30/2005 8:57:04 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: APRPEH
Who does Iran blow up first?

Tel Aviv.

12 posted on 11/30/2005 9:15:54 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Captain Rhino
If the rest of the world thinks that either the US or Israel will wait until a smuggled Iranian nuclear weapon goes off in some western city or for the Iranians to strike directly at Israel with a nuclear missile...they've got another think coming.

I hope you are right. If the Rats win the WH, the Israelis will be on their own.

13 posted on 11/30/2005 9:17:59 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TheDon

Maybe. but having 140,000 US troops in Iraq makes for a blackmailable target for the bad guys.


14 posted on 11/30/2005 9:27:15 AM PST by APRPEH (DPP is A OK)
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To: APRPEH

140,000 US troops are spread all over Iraq. Such an attack on Iraq would not be effective. The Iranians know it is a one time attack. Once they set of an atomic/nuclear weapon, the US will respond in a massive and unstoppable way.

The regime in Iran would like nothing more than to go down in history as having martyred themselves to destroy the Israeli nation. If they should ever acquire an atomic/nuclear weapon, and the means to deploy it effectively, Tel Aviv is history.


15 posted on 11/30/2005 9:35:33 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: NonValueAdded

The new president of Iran is a Hijjoteh (sp) cult follower. They beleive that an apocalypse is needed to prepare for the return of the Medhji from the 12th century. If they use a nuke it will be against the Saudi Oil feilds, the Izzies have the Arrow and it will intercept the TBM over Jordan or Saudi anyways so the Iranians will go for a crippling blow to the world economy by destroying the SA oil flow.


16 posted on 11/30/2005 9:35:51 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: NonValueAdded
Point of origin will be known before anything hits the ground. With our downward looking systems we know every thing that is launched into the air.
The only way they could have a nuclear yield without the originating point being instantly detected is to move the weapon in on the ground via man, mule, camel, or land or water vehicle.
The Israelis will wait until the time is right for them and then they will take out the weapons facilities in Iran.
17 posted on 11/30/2005 9:48:19 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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