Posted on 12/01/2005 2:22:35 PM PST by naturalman1975
He knew what the score was if he got caught.
He rolled the die and lost.
Now he pays.
Don't want to get hung for smuggleing dope?
Don't smuggle dope.
Even I can figure that out.
The death penalty for drugs.
Barbaric country.
If only we had been serious about keeping drugs out here in the U.S. instead of being "oh so compasionate", how many lives would have been saved?
"Van was arrested in December 2002 at Changi airport, carrying 396g of heroin strapped to his body..."
If ya can't do the time...............
"The death penalty for drugs.
Barbaric country."
Perhaps you'd have a different outlook if your son / daughter died of a herion overdose.
This guy dealt in misery.
Amen.
Let me help you with that. It's the death penalty for trafficking in more than 15 grams of heroin. Nguyen was trafficking in more than 26 times that amount in uncut heroin, enough to destroy the lives of thousands of young people in his adoptive country of Australia -- a country that took him and his family in when they sought to escape a life of misery in their native country. He was willing to sacrifice those people to save his repeat offender brother, a brother who laughed and joked on the day of Nguyen's execution.
For those who simply abuse drugs in Singapore, there are a variety of diversion programs, as well as prison sentences. Sometimes Singapore is, IMO, far too lenient here.
Let's keep this in perspective, shall we?
IF you make it through customs..
Not to worry...it's never happened, and I've never had a problem getting through customs. My point was that when I visited those two countries, there was no doubt left (either in print or over the loudspeaker) that drug trafficking was punishable by death. From what I understand, this guy had the stuff strapped to him.
No, I would not have a different outlook were my child to die of a heroin overdose, because were that to happen, it would be because my child chose to take heroin. That's a stupid thing, and a death from it would be tragic.
However, that does not change the reality, as I see it, that the death penalty is a disproportionate punishment for anything other than pre-meditated murder, and that even in that case, in the modern world it is not truly necessary.
Putting people to death for murder, even, in the modern world is at the limits of propriety. Putting anybody to death for anything short of that is barbarism, plain and simple.
"Let's keep this in perspective, shall we?"
Yes, let's.
We're talking about putting a man to death here.
That's barely tolerable in cases of really heinous murder where guilt is certain beyond a reasonable doubt. It's frank barbarism for anything else.
General Washington hanged men for mutiny and for espionage. Was he therefore "barbaric"?
And what about those who profit wholesale from dangling the poison of life-destroying addictive drugs in front of confused and impressionable young people? I suppose you wouldn't consider that barbaric.
When Julius and Ethel R. handed off our nuclear secrets to the soviets, they handed them the means to murder every last one of us. That may not be "barbaric" enough for you, but in my view, it qualified them both for the death penalty.
Drug prohibition works about as well as gun prohibition.
The result is the exact opposite of the desired result.
No, I'm not a better person.
I am an obedient Catholic.
One of the difficult doctrines of my church is opposition to the death penalty.
The death penalty is easy.
I prefer sentences to slavery at hard labor for all criminal activities of whatever sort.
This both preserves life and does good.
Work as penitence.
"What you call "barely tolerable" or "barbaric" is not only approved but required by God Himself in Genesis 9:6. He not only requires it for murder but requires that murder penalty for all the generations. That means us."
No, it does not.
If you want to dispute the validity of God's Word, that's your option. But the meaning of God's covenant with Noah is plain. The entire covenant applies to all the generations of man.
And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations [Gen 9:12]
I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. [Gen 9:13]
And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. [Gen 9:15]
And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. [9:16]
And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth. [Gen 9:17]
In five successive verses, God makes it clear that the terms of the Noahic covenant apply to all of us for all time.
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