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California homicides dwarf Iraq deaths
worldnetdaily ^ | December 2, 2005

Posted on 12/01/2005 10:40:40 PM PST by seastay

Recently released crime statistics show the homicide rate in California is 265 percent higher than the death rate suffered by U.S. and British military personnel in Iraq.

According to the report "Crime in California 2004," compiled by California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, there were 2,394 reported homicides in the Golden State last year. That compares with 905 deaths of coalition forces in Iraq, chiefly Americans and Brits, during the same time period.

A monthly average of 75 deaths of American and British forces has remained fairly constant over the last two years.

The peak for homicides in California was in 1993, when there were 4,095 reported.

Such comparisons have been made by defenders of the action in Iraq, who say the number of casualties for a war of this length are extraordinarily low.

Opponents of the war claim the lives of the 2,000 Americans who have died since the initial invasion have been lost in vain.

Opined Toula Foscolos in the French Le Magazine: "More than 2,000 Americans have left their lives [in Iraq], thanks to the conniving and self-serving ways of their dim-witted president."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; crimerate; homicide; iraq; lockyer
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In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) are against illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens. These numbers rival the war on terriosm statistics, but nobody not even the local news will even report it, yet we hear everyday about Iraq.
1 posted on 12/01/2005 10:40:40 PM PST by seastay
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To: seastay

I'm surprised that we hear about US soldiers dying in Iraq, seeing as how it tends to make Muslims look bad. But then again, the MSM imputes those deaths to Bush, so it works out for them.


2 posted on 12/01/2005 10:42:39 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: seastay
Yea, kind of funny isn't it.

L

3 posted on 12/01/2005 10:42:47 PM PST by Lurker ("Son, there's only two things you need in this world; love and a .45.")
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To: seastay
Nothing that more gun control wouldn't fix. </idiocy>
4 posted on 12/01/2005 10:48:31 PM PST by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: seastay
In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) are against illegal aliens.

But haven't you heard the good new? We are being successful at securing Iraqi borders!

5 posted on 12/01/2005 10:51:45 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: seastay

A Popular insurgency in California leads to hier death tolls.


6 posted on 12/01/2005 10:54:32 PM PST by wickedpinto (The road map to peace is a straight line down an Israeli rifle.)
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In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) are against illegal aliens.

That is actually a pretty low number. When a homicide is committed, you don't arrest because you don't know who it is, or you arrest someone because you do. For the most part, in a murder case, you can usually find the suspect unless they have fled the country which citizens rarely do, but illegals do often. Frankly, I'm surprise the statistic is not close to 100%

7 posted on 12/01/2005 10:59:23 PM PST by staytrue (moonbat conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: wickedpinto

When we are done using this to promote our hot issues, you got look at this with a certain amount of horror. Something is really wrong, sports fans.


8 posted on 12/01/2005 10:59:40 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: seastay

Actuall while the number of homicides in CA were larger than the number of US deaths in Iraq, the RATE is not larger as the article says.


9 posted on 12/01/2005 11:00:04 PM PST by JLS
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To: seastay

That was my first thought when I read the article!!

Stunning news that ought to make every citizen
stand up and shout this from the roof tops!!!


10 posted on 12/01/2005 11:06:20 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: seastay

That was my first thought when I read the article!!

Stunning news that ought to make every citizen
stand up and shout this from the roof tops!!!


11 posted on 12/01/2005 11:06:20 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: seastay
Opponents of the war claim the lives of the 2,000 Americans who have died since the initial invasion have been lost in vain

It is baffling to me how anyone can attribute the death of any member of an ALL-VOLUNTEER military as being in VAIN.

This means the volunteer either did NOT know there were such a thing as WAR or that if there was a WAR he would be excluded from being a part of it.

Both excuses are beyond reasoning and enter the realm of fantasy.

12 posted on 12/01/2005 11:07:22 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: seastay

Watch out when Mexicans and gang members figure out how to blow themselves up with Crack.


13 posted on 12/01/2005 11:12:52 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: staytrue

... no, it is not surprising that illegal aliens would kill without impunity here...but let us not profile (sarc off)


14 posted on 12/01/2005 11:38:13 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: seastay
It's a QUAGMIRE!
Let's pull out.

15 posted on 12/02/2005 12:26:30 AM PST by Bon mots
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Actuall while the number of homicides in CA were larger than the number of US deaths in Iraq, the RATE is not larger as the article says.

My thought exactly. You can count on WND to be sloppy. 2400 out of 33 million is not a higher rate than 905 out of 160,000. You'd think that even journalists must have taken a math course at some point.

16 posted on 12/02/2005 12:29:58 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: wickedpinto

Si, la raza wants to reannex old Mexico.


17 posted on 12/02/2005 1:06:44 AM PST by carumba
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To: ReignOfError
"My thought exactly."

I don't know if your intentionally being deceptive... But you are, none the less.

LA and other cities where these deaths occur do not have a population of 33 million.
18 posted on 12/02/2005 1:45:51 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: bybybill

But our troops can shoot back.


19 posted on 12/02/2005 1:48:54 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ReignOfError

Iraq is an active war zone.

California is not.

The comparison has value.


20 posted on 12/02/2005 2:20:08 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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