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The AP lied to (and about) Barrett Rifles
Say Uncle ^ | 12/1/05

Posted on 12/02/2005 5:23:32 AM PST by Brian Mosely

I mentioned an article that ran at The Tennessean about Barrett Rifles. I received a tip from Anthony Garcia in comments that the folks at Barrett were surprised by the piece because the reporter, Rose French, approached Barrett on the premise that she was interested in doing a business feature about the company. Anthony forwarded me an email from Barrett to the Associated Press that addresses this concern and some factual inaccuracies contained in the story. The Barrett folks were understandably surprised that the piece she actually ran was largely anti-50 caliber material from the Violence Policy Center.

I sent Dan Goodwin, Media Relations Manager for Barrett Rifles, an email to confirm that he had written the email and to ask his permission to reprint it. He ran it by Ronnie Barrett and they agreed I could. However, they asked that I not print the document referenced in the email. Here’s the email, which is Mr. Goodwin’s inquiry to the AP’s Nashville bureau:

Gentlemen;

I contacted the AP’s national headquarters and they insisted upon my contacting your bureau first. I eagerly await your replies.

This is in response to the Rose French story “Small-time tinkering leads to big-time guns, sales by Tennessee Company” released for distribution last weekend by the Associated Press.

First, based on what was published, I believe Ms. French misrepresented her purpose in coming to our plant for a tour and interview.

I asked her what the story was about beforehand and she said “a business feature about your company.”

I relayed her request to my boss and Ronnie Barrett and they were concerned about it being a political story. Ms. French reassured me mention of legislative issues would be brief and “it’s mostly going to be a business feature.”

Please note Ms. French and her photographer were here well over two hours and half that time was a taped interview with Barrett.

The byline and copy ran 975 words, according to the word count tool on my computer. The portion dedicated to political opponents and experts was 407 words.

Now, I’m a J-school graduate like you fellows and somewhat math impaired. But my computer says that is right at 42 percent of the story.

Ms. French’s story had direct quotes from Tom Diaz of the Violence Policy Center before it had direct quotes from Ronnie Barrett. I also noted Mr. Barrett was only quoted once directly.

It was clear during her visit that Ms. French knew little or nothing about firearms in general and our products in particular.

She couldn’t seem to grasp that we make three different models of rifles chambered for the .50 BMG cartridge (a semi-automatic 10-shot, a 5-shot bolt-action repeater, and a single-shot bolt-action) as well as a 6.8mm SPC-caliber carbine.

As in her story, she didn’t seem to get the difference between the rifle and the cartridge during her visit.

Judging by the story’s lead and a later reference, Ms. French also couldn’t understand the difference between a lightly armored personnel carrier and a tank.

I tried to educate her somewhat about firearms as did Barrett while she was here. I offered, during her visit and afterward, to review her manuscript for factual accuracy _ stressing I was not making an attempt at prior restraint.

Ms. French declined my offer, and the result is an inaccurate, clearly biased political hack job that received worldwide distribution by the AP. It’s also clear, given the mistakes, that she based a lot of it on outdated VPC propaganda.

I’ve attached a Word copy of Ms. French’s story, highlighting the incorrect portions in red and making corrective comments at the end. Everything therein was covered correctly during her visit. I’ve also highlighted in blue portions of a political nature.

Also attached is a copy of source material given Ms. French that includes a number of facts about our company’s recent achievements (Army’s Top 10 Inventions Award, Lessons Learned report, etc.), new products and a brief history _ which she ignored _ but then this wasn’t really a business feature.

By the way, she was also told:

1. The Discovery Channel is featuring us in an upcoming series called Ultimate Weapons slated for release during summer sweeps

2. BFMI is a finalist for the Nashville Area Chamber of Commerce’s Exporter of the Year Award and Barrett is up for Executive of the Year

3. We’re producing the Barrett Firearms 2006 Annual, for worldwide newsstand distribution, in association with Harris Publications.

Not worthy of mention in a “business feature”?

Needless to say, we are now quite wary of having anything further to do with Ms. French or AP. Her story pitch was unethical, and her time here resulted in no new information.

Of course the damage is done, but we want urgent and repeated clarifications sent out to AP subscribers.

Regards,

Dan Goodwin

Media Relations Manager
Barrett Firearms

So, the situation is that Ms. French held herself out as doing a business feature, then does a biased anti-gun piece using the company, omits information that would be consistent with a business feature, and the report contained many factual inaccuracies.

Dan has informed me in comments that the AP would issue a correction. They did and it is here (the AP beat me by one hour because I actually, you know, fact checked and verified my sources):

In a Nov. 25 story about Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc., The Associated Press reported erroneously that .50-caliber rifles were used to penetrate the armor of Iraqi tanks from a mile away during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Such rifles were used against Iraqi armored personnel carriers, but military experts say they could not penetrate tank armor from that distance.

The story also said company founder Ronnie Barrett started tinkering with the .50-caliber Browning Machine Gun in the early 1980s. A company spokesman said Barrett took photos of one such gun, but then built his own rifle.

The story also quoted a criminal justice scholar who said the rifle wasn’t useful for hunting because it would destroy game meat - a claim Barrett Firearms disputes. Bryce Towsley, a Vermont-based gun writer, said that when the .50-caliber rifle is used with the proper bullet, it would not destroy the meat.

No mention in the correction that Ms. French lied to the folks at Barrett in order to do an anti-gun hit piece.

Update: I neglected to mention that Michael Marks of the Fifty Caliber Institute responded to the article. It can be seen here. [link fixed sorry about that]


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: ap; banglist; medialies; projournalism; rosefrench
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1 posted on 12/02/2005 5:23:34 AM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely

It's a well known fact among the MSM that the .50 can shoot down high altitude aircraft and sink aircraft carriers offshore.


2 posted on 12/02/2005 5:25:26 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: Brian Mosely

Of course, nobody really expects anything like an apology from the AP - but it's still good to show them that they're not fooling anybody.


3 posted on 12/02/2005 5:27:23 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Brian Mosely
"It was clear during her visit that Ms. French knew little or nothing about firearms in general and our products in particular."

Typical reporter.

4 posted on 12/02/2005 5:27:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Brian Mosely
I think the rules that apply to Ann Coulter threads should also apply to threads about these babies.


5 posted on 12/02/2005 5:30:33 AM PST by Begin (Mister, we could use a man like Ronald Reagan again.)
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To: Begin

that's hot


6 posted on 12/02/2005 5:32:09 AM PST by d-informed-1 (i'm not very smart, so don't hold my thoughts against me)
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To: Rebelbase

I've never seen the AP, and that little french outfit the AFP, quite this blatently agenda driven in many years. This story is but one small example of their agenda driven reporting.


7 posted on 12/02/2005 5:33:52 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: BenLurkin
Not to disparage everyone from Tennessee, but at what point since midnight did these folks fall off the Turnip Truck. It sounds to me like they would let Michael Moore in for a visit if he asked.
8 posted on 12/02/2005 5:34:18 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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To: Begin
Come to Papa....

L

9 posted on 12/02/2005 5:34:47 AM PST by Lurker ("Son, there's only two things you need in this world; love and a .45.")
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To: Begin

That is one sexy picture


10 posted on 12/02/2005 5:35:57 AM PST by ChiefKujo
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To: Rebelbase

And that 1000's of us drool at the prospect of owning one!


11 posted on 12/02/2005 5:38:44 AM PST by litehaus
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To: Begin

I saw a Barret in a Pawn Shop 5 years go that came with 1000 rounds of ammo, all for $3000. I knew the store owner so I could have had it for $2,500.

I'm still kicking myself for not getting it.


12 posted on 12/02/2005 5:38:50 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: Brian Mosely; eyespysomething
I'm no expert in journalism, but it appears the AP missed a great opportunity to do a business feature that would have appealed to many readers (business and firearms enthusiasts) of its subscriber newspapers.

Instead, the AP did another piece of socialist commentary that are driving many of those same readers to cancel their newspaper subscriptions.

If anybody gets a newspaper that printed this story, they should write to the editor to complain about the Associated Press's bias and how it reflects poorly on the local paper.

13 posted on 12/02/2005 5:38:55 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: P-40
This is too bad. The Associated Press was once the gold standard of unbiased news gathering. The AP stylebook was the bible for print journalism and still widely used as a usage guide.
This is underhanded "gotcha" journalism. How far they have fallen.
14 posted on 12/02/2005 5:43:06 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Brian Mosely

I guess my question would be, why would any gun manufacturer let any reporter near their facility or conduct an interview with the press. They should know the outcome beforehand.


15 posted on 12/02/2005 5:47:49 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: SittinYonder

AP knows exactly what its doing. when they print pieces like this, they do so to appeal to the uneducated masses and to inflame the educated masses. by doing so, they spread their news the most.


16 posted on 12/02/2005 5:48:17 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Rebelbase
I could have had it for $2,500.

I'm still kicking myself for not getting it.

Get ready, I think I need to kick you too.

Actually, I understand. Sometimes getting the money together is not easy.

But in this case, it sounds like you could have "test fired" those 1000 rounds and still sold it for a profit.

KICK!

17 posted on 12/02/2005 5:50:05 AM PST by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: Rebelbase
"It's a well known fact among the MSM that the .50 can shoot down high altitude aircraft and sink aircraft carriers offshore."

...and submarines. And satellites. It's what brought down the Columbia.[/sarc]

18 posted on 12/02/2005 5:57:51 AM PST by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
About Ms. French -- in a way I'm not surprised about the set-up. But, playing devil's advocate ... imagine you are Ms. French. You are on deadline. you have done no homework on the Barrett company, weapons or possibly never even shot a BB gun. Editor is asking where the story is. So ... you take the easy way out, dodge all the issues you don't understand, and write about what you sort of understand, the propaganda issue. Heaven forbid you call the company back while writing the story and ask for more details or clarification.

Also, just so I can reveal my amazing ignorance of firearms (although I have shot BB guns and 22s)

Weren't Civil War era rifles very large caliber? Like .45 or .50? I thought some of that contributed to the ghastly casualties in the Civil War (serious weapons and primitive medical care ...)

Anyway, I can see how Ms. French got her tail in a sling with this story. And while the AP is probably defending her publicly, hopefully someone somewhere pinned her ears back about this privately.

ann
19 posted on 12/02/2005 6:00:24 AM PST by Cloverfarm (Children are a blessing)
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To: Rebelbase
It's a well known fact among the MSM that the .50 can shoot down high altitude aircraft and sink aircraft carriers offshore.

Another of those pesky leaks from their friends at the CIA. (I inadvertently left out the r in friends at first typing. The result was so appropriate I almost left it as it was.)

So many papers have become simply clipping services for AP and Reuters that they all say the same thing. Because of their leftist inaccurate reporting lots of publications lost circulation and money so they dumped personnel to save money and then relied more heavily on the wire services. That makes it extremely convenient for those wanting to control the news but it only exacerbates the money problem. More leftists unintended consequences.

20 posted on 12/02/2005 6:04:26 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Rebelbase

"I saw a Barret in a Pawn Shop 5 years go that came with 1000 rounds of ammo, all for $3000. I knew the store owner so I could have had it for $2,500.

I'm still kicking myself for not getting it."

A local shop has one for over $8,000.



21 posted on 12/02/2005 6:07:27 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Begin
Looking at that gun gives me a woodie and I have not had a woodie for years!
22 posted on 12/02/2005 6:10:36 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Cloverfarm

Just for fun, the Brown Bess Musket was .75 caliber.


23 posted on 12/02/2005 6:11:59 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Brian Mosely

Barrett Firearms M468 6.8SPC Carbine

24 posted on 12/02/2005 6:13:09 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Brian Mosely

The MSM is NOT your friend and can NOT be trusted. Ever!! They speak with forked tongues, and write with forked pens.


25 posted on 12/02/2005 6:18:37 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Cloverfarm
Today's rot at the AP goes all the way to the Regional Managing Editor level. The AP has plenty of firearms-savy writers (one guy I know works at the Cincinnati Bureau) so they could have pushed the right buttons if they had wanted to.
Those Civil War era rounds you mentioned were black powder. They were big but slow. The Barrett is big and fast.
26 posted on 12/02/2005 6:22:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Rebelbase
I saw a Barret in a Pawn Shop 5 years go that came with 1000 rounds of ammo, all for $3000. I knew the store owner so I could have had it for $2,500.

I'm still kicking myself for not getting it.

Since it's important to kick someone when they're down,

"Here's Your Sign!"

Mark

27 posted on 12/02/2005 6:28:24 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Rebelbase

And the space shuttle... don't forget to tell them about the danger to the space shuttle....


28 posted on 12/02/2005 6:30:17 AM PST by tcostell
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To: Brian Mosely
The AP lied to (and about) Barrett Rifles

We're SHOCKED!

29 posted on 12/02/2005 6:32:12 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading The Article Since 1999)
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To: Rebelbase
It's a well known fact among the MSM that the .50 can shoot down high altitude aircraft and sink aircraft carriers offshore.

If you shoot at the sun with a .50 caliber, you will put it out.

30 posted on 12/02/2005 6:32:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading The Article Since 1999)
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To: Rebelbase
I saw a Barret in a Pawn Shop 5 years go that came with 1000 rounds of ammo, all for $3000. I knew the store owner so I could have had it for $2,500. I'm still kicking myself for not getting it.

You are so stupid that I cannot post to you any more.

31 posted on 12/02/2005 6:34:29 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading The Article Since 1999)
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To: jjm2111; Rebelbase
...and submarines. And satellites. It's what brought down the Columbia.

Dunno 'bout you all, but as soon as I get mine, I'm planning on using it to blow up the moon.

32 posted on 12/02/2005 6:35:45 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
...and submarines. And satellites. It's what brought down the Columbia.

Dunno 'bout you all, but as soon as I get mine, I'm planning on using it to blow up the moon.

And it'll do it too! After all, you've heard of the the "asteroid belt," just beyond the orbit of Mars, haven't you? Well, that used to be a planet, before somebody hit it with a Barrett 50BMG!

Mark

Please note the cute use of media like syntax... "hit it with a Barrett 50BMG!"

33 posted on 12/02/2005 6:43:54 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Begin
Gun Porn!
34 posted on 12/02/2005 6:51:54 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: MarkL

It's obvious the lamestream media can not handle the responsibility of reporting the truth. Therefore I suggest the formation of the Bureau of Accuracy, Truth, and Facts (BATF for short).

No unlicensed journalist may publish any article without prior approval from the BATF. Any violation will result in the offending news agency being surrounded by FBI and military and having their building set on fire and everyone being burned to death ala Janet Reno.


35 posted on 12/02/2005 6:52:48 AM PST by manglor
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To: School of Rational Thought
I saw a Barret in a Pawn Shop 5 years go that came with 1000 rounds of ammo, all for $3000.

Someone lost money. Isn't the ammo like $3 per round itself?

36 posted on 12/02/2005 6:55:36 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Brian Mosely
The AP lied to (and about) ______[please fill in the blank] ____ .
37 posted on 12/02/2005 7:02:32 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: Brian Mosely

You know what upsets me!?? The fact that I can't afford to buy one of the 50 cal rifles. Man does that get my goat!!


38 posted on 12/02/2005 7:04:11 AM PST by steel_resolve
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To: Begin

That is so cool, I got to get me one of them.
Shame there is no place to shoot one in my area. I want 1000' just to geter warmed up.


39 posted on 12/02/2005 7:10:20 AM PST by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: Lazamataz

I have shamed myself, my friends and this site. Kill me now.


40 posted on 12/02/2005 7:12:56 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: Recon Dad
Recon Dad, You nailed it. Why in God's name did Dan Goodwin,
Media Relations Manager for Barrett Firearms allow a 'journalist' within a mile of Barrett Firearms. Anyone with the brains God gave a half witted billy goat should know that 'journalist' is just another word for Liberal or Democrat. There ain't no way a firearms manufacturer is going to get a fair story from one of them. Sheesh!
41 posted on 12/02/2005 7:14:28 AM PST by Long Distance Rider
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To: Cloverfarm
Civil War era rifles varied from .36 caliber to over .60 caliber. Most rifles were in the .54-.58 caliber range. Pistols were anywhere from .31 to .44 cal (or greater with the LeMat).

Even though they were propelled by black powder (of sometimes questionable purity), a larger than 1/2 inch chunk of lead is nothing to sneeze at.

42 posted on 12/02/2005 7:20:44 AM PST by Cliff Dweller ("get thar fustest with the mostest." GEN NB Forrest)
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To: Rebelbase
the .50 can shoot down high altitude aircraft and sink aircraft carriers offshore.

I'm gettin one to practice with U-2s.

43 posted on 12/02/2005 7:28:39 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Cliff Dweller
You're exactly right about the calibers. Additionally, Civil War era commanders were still using massed troop formations against troops firing rifles and not the smooth-bores against which such tactics had been effective in past wars. This also contributed to the appalling carnage.
44 posted on 12/02/2005 7:30:59 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Lazamataz

I've got the coolest video of my son at a range in Israel shooting a Barrett at about 800 yards. They have an electronic targeting system which shows exactly where the round hits on the target. He was doing heart shots just as if you were on a pistol range at 10 yards.


45 posted on 12/02/2005 8:02:21 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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To: Recon Dad

I am jealous of every word in your post.


46 posted on 12/02/2005 8:04:05 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading The Article Since 1999)
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To: Lazamataz
Having a ball living vicariously through my son's military career. What's coming up here in the immediate future will eclipse everything up till now. With the advent of the Marines joining SOCOM the tempo for the Force Recon guys is really going to pick up next year.
47 posted on 12/02/2005 8:26:26 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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To: Smokin' Joe
Just for fun, the Brown Bess Musket was .75 caliber.

Just for information, that's a revolutionary war era weapon. Actually it dates from somewhat earlier, 1720s, and continued in use and production for some time afterwards as well, around 1820 in most cases, but as late as 1850s in British colonial and militia units.

48 posted on 12/02/2005 8:45:18 AM PST by El Gato
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To: antiRepublicrat
Someone lost money. Isn't the ammo like $3 per round itself?

Special stuff can be that high, and higher, but it can be had for as little as $1.10 per round, for 1,000 rounds of re-manufactured ammunition.

49 posted on 12/02/2005 8:47:24 AM PST by El Gato
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To: Begin

"You can't have that for Christmas, kid! You'll shoot you eye out."


50 posted on 12/02/2005 8:59:09 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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