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STATE TO TAX ONLINE PURCHASES (West Virginia illustrates "The Greedy Hand"!)
PMSNBC ^ | WSAZ-TV

Posted on 12/02/2005 8:07:39 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

Charleston, W.Va. -- Millions of people do their christmas shopping online. But be prepared for that online purchase to cost you a little more this year. West Virginia's state tax department is tracking online purchases this year. If you don't pay taxes when you make the purchase then you'll be forced to pay up in April.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: internet; taxes
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Ugh.
1 posted on 12/02/2005 8:07:39 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Maybe they can use the taxes to build another memorial to Klansman Robert Byrd.

West Virginia: Everything's Relative.


2 posted on 12/02/2005 8:09:37 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

For someone's concern above, the word, "Christmas" is spelled with a capital "C."


3 posted on 12/02/2005 8:10:55 AM PST by GOPologist ("On some days you may feel like a dog; on other days you may feel like a hydrant!")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

"Use tax" - It's on the books in a lot of states, but hasn't really been enforced - except for businesses.

As long as I can rememeber Maine has had a place on the income tax form where you can declaire use tax.


4 posted on 12/02/2005 8:11:48 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: peyton randolph

Actually, I think all that's been done with federal money, stolen from all of us.


5 posted on 12/02/2005 8:13:45 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Recovering_Democrat
This is the most concerning part of the story:

West Virginia's state tax department is tracking online purchases

How are they going to be doing this?

6 posted on 12/02/2005 8:14:17 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The last line:

State officials estimate that they loose nearly 25 million dollars in lost revenue each year on purchases made online.

Am I the only person with enough education to recognize the difference between "lose" and "loose"?

Also, exactly how WV plans to enforce this isn't mentioned anywhere in the article.

7 posted on 12/02/2005 8:14:38 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: So Cal Rocket

Good question. I think they're bluffing.


8 posted on 12/02/2005 8:16:00 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Soon all online sales will be taxed.

SSTP

http://www.streamlinedsalestax.org/


9 posted on 12/02/2005 8:16:20 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Michigan has been doing this for awhile. The thing is they expect the consumer/tax payer/sucker to own up to the taxes they should pay. For example, there are no taxes at Amazon.com, but I'm supposed to figure out what the state taxes should have been & put that on my tax form OR I can just charge myself a certain percentage for the year if I can't remember.

Bet we pay taxes on the internet items four or five times before it's through anyway.


10 posted on 12/02/2005 8:17:05 AM PST by madison10
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To: So Cal Rocket

State tax departments routinely audit businesses to be sure they are squeezing out every penny they can get. Thus they have access to sales records, albeit usually only in their own state. I'm not sure under what authority they can audit a "foreign" (to their state) company. However, with reciprocal agreements it is possible that records could be shared. I suspect / hope this will trigger a privacy firestorm concerning interstate snooping. Within state, your best bet is the ballot box.


11 posted on 12/02/2005 8:23:28 AM PST by NonValueAdded (What ever happened to "Politics stops at the water's edge?")
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To: madison10
I am supposed to figure out the tax

This is getting amusing. Most state use tax laws are very complicated and even the legislators who drafted them couldn't tell you which items are taxed and at what rate.

An example in our state is clothing. There is a sales and use tax above a certain dollar threshold. I have no clue whether that applies on a cost per item basis or a total purchase basis. All of these laws have exemptions, exclusions, etc.

To expect every state resident to track every online purchase, analyze each one for its tax consequences, and self-report is absurd on its face.

The revenuers should start by reviewing in an audit all purchases of each member of their state legislature by pouring through credit card and Paypal statements.

That would be the end of this nonsense.
12 posted on 12/02/2005 8:24:45 AM PST by cgbg (MSM and Democratic treason--fifty years and counting...)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I think a state tax on interstate sales could be challenged (again, and again) as interference with an area of law reserved for the federal government.


13 posted on 12/02/2005 8:25:08 AM PST by Tax Government (Oppose the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: wallcrawlr

Wow! I liked the website you linked to. That would be a back door way of getting an NRST! That would be a good thing, right? [/sarcasm]


14 posted on 12/02/2005 8:36:36 AM PST by SolidSupplySide
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To: Tax Government
Great. Kill all the small businesses in W.Va, and discourage any new ones from moving there. Smart.

You guys need to start electing different people, folks. Who was the wiseguy who decided that you don't own the mineral rights under the land you own...that's one of my favorites of the "screw-the-poor" laws.

I think W.Va. is a beautiful state, but the ruling class, stinks.

15 posted on 12/02/2005 8:37:23 AM PST by elk
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To: Recovering_Democrat

wow, a consumption tax...how canadian


16 posted on 12/02/2005 8:37:32 AM PST by kajingawd (" happy with stone underhead, let Heaven and Earth go about their changes")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Illinois has been enforcing compliance with the sales/use tax provisions this past year. As a CPA I've seen MANY more audits.


17 posted on 12/02/2005 9:09:46 AM PST by my4kidsdad
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"West Virginia's state tax department is tracking online purchases this year."

So precisely "how" are they "tracking online purchases"???

18 posted on 12/02/2005 9:16:11 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog

For what it's worth, I doubt whether they can eavesdrop on internet transactions. But last year New York State got a subpoena and went through the records of companies that sell cigarettes online. They then sent tax bills to residents who had purchased cigarettes.

Presumably West Virginia could try something similar.

I think most states ask you to declare "use tax" items, and of course most people just don't bother.


19 posted on 12/02/2005 9:32:28 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: peyton randolph

Bwah.


20 posted on 12/02/2005 9:36:53 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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