Gun-crazy Washington

Newsday (Editorial) ^ | 12/2/05 | n/a

[kiriath_jearim]

Gun-crazy Washington

Congress is in bed with the gun lobby

December 2, 2005

In the days since New York City police officer Dillon Stewart was gunned down, Mayor Michael Bloomberg has sounded a perfectly rational call for tougher federal gun laws. The city has rigorous laws of its own but is plagued by guns that flood in from states where laws are more porous. "We've got to stop this craziness," Bloomberg said. Tragically, his entreaty will fall on deaf ears in Washington.

Congress has been sprinting away from rational gun control in recent years. It has, in fact, done much to make the business lucrative for gun manufacturers and dealers, including the small minority of dealers who account for the majority of guns diverted from the legal market into the hands of criminals.

Consider that in the last few years Congress has:

Refused to reauthorize the assault weapons ban despite wide support for the ban among police groups.

Given gun makers and gun dealers immunity from lawsuits.

Refused to prohibit gun sales to people on the government's no-fly list of suspected terrorists. That's right: People too dangerous to board commercial aircraft can saunter into any gun shop in America and walk out with all the firepower their money can buy.

Restricted access to the federal firearms trace system database to only law enforcement officials, and then only to track particular, individual guns. Researchers, advocates and local officials can no longer access the federal data to track more generally where the guns on the nation's streets come from. That's appalling when, according to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the majority of the guns diverted from legal to illegal traffic are traced to 1 percent of the nation's gun dealers.

[mountainlyons]

Why is it that liberals want to ban guns form law abiding people and want catch and release for criminals? Armed civilians prevent crime. Liberals are pro crime!

[pabianice]

psychosis [sy.KO.sis] (n).

“The inability to distinguish between what is real and what is imaginary. Psychosis is a term used to describe a severe mental illness. Psychotics are characterized by a variety of symptoms that most people consider abnormal. These include experiencing delusions, such as the notion that one is being persecuted or conspired against. Psychotics may see things which don't actually exist and hear Voices (i.e. God) when no one is around. They often exhibit compulsive, irrational, ritualized behavior, esp. when such behavior serves no purpose or is even harmful or disruptive to those around them. They show no concern for others but may exhibit total self-centered behavior. Includes sociopathy, schizophrenia.”

DSM-IV

“22,310 gun laws is not enough! We won’t stop this senseless violence until we have 22,311 gun laws! Elvis is alive and living in South Boston! I am the Walrus, Ko Ko Katchoo!”

[Buffettfan]

I am an NRA member. Does that mean that I am in bed with the gun lobby too? :)

[PaxMacian]

"We've got to stop this craziness," Bloomberg said.

NYC is a loonie bin. I was mugged three times in four years there and twice I was less than a city block from police. Once I ran after the guy that had lifted me off the ground by my throat and he was running right toward the cop. Yelling, "thief, mugger, stop him..." did not motivate the fat pig from budging as the perp hurdled the turnstile in right in front of him. To solve the problem of being mugged I started carrying a man bag and on more than a half dozen instances it prevented a mugging by the simple threat of sliding my hand into the bag as I stared the approaching thief. It wouldn't have helped in the situation where the guy caught me off guard from behind on the stairwell, but then the officer wasn't any help either. It is the right to carry which provides an overall enveloping sense of potential danger in the thieves similar to that hand slipping into a shoulder bag.

[Hardastarboard]

does anyone else seem to see a major increase in anti-gun articles in the media recently

Sure seems that way to me. I'm sure it's just a "coincidence". I think that New York cop getting killed, and Bloomberg, the "Republican" mayor coming out in favor of more gun control brought these roaches out of the woodwork.

[okie01]

Why is it so hard to understand that criminals are by definition people who don't obey laws, and gun laws are no exception?

It's not. But that has nothing to do with the agenda of the gun control groups. Their interest does NOT lie in disarming the criminals. Instead, it lies in controlling the law-abiding.

[backhoe]

6 posted on 11/30/2005 1:57:22 PM EST by Jeff Head

To: Monterrosa-24; Jeff Head

Heartbreaking pictures! I've seen thousands of atrocity pics of that era but not these. Thanks.

Although it's been a while since I've seen those pictures, they never lose their impact. I always think about the women I've cared about, family, and friends.

Kindly note a few things...

1) In the first picture, some of those women are pregant. Double murder, IMO.

2) In the second picture, not all are dead- yet. Just badly wounded.

3) The only thing that could have saved them, was another group of hard men, with guns in hand. Think about that for a while.

Not marches, not laws, not protests, not protocols- real men, with real weapons.

41 posted on 11/30/2005 3:51:47 PM EST by backhoe

Heartbreaking pictures! I've seen thousands of atrocity pics of that era but not these. Thanks.

Although it's been a while since I've seen those pictures, they never lose their impact. I always think about the women I've cared about, family, and friends.

Kindly note a few things...

1) In the first picture, some of those women are pregant. Double murder, IMO.

2) In the second picture, not all are dead- yet. Just badly wounded.

3) The only thing that could have saved them, was another group of hard men, with guns in hand. Think about that for a while.

Not marches, not laws, not protests, not protocols- real men, with real weapons.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Is Newsday a legit source? ;]

[JOE43270]

"It's about CONTROL" Your exactly Right. I'm a Life member of they NRA and I know the left knows who we are. They will not get mine while i'm still breathing.

[Regulator]

Newsday just announced massive layoffs

I just get all warm and fuzzy hearing about that. The same thing is happening to the Knight-Ridder owned Mercury News in San Jose, which is probably to the left of Newsday.

[Skywalk]

In my Nazi Germany class the last two weeks are about the Holocaust.

Some of the descriptions are both horrifying and stupefying.

I just can't imagine people knowing they are going to get killed just kneeling down for the murderers. FIGHT! There were rebellions at a couple of camps, but only a few ended up escaping. Of course, that's better than ZERO and better than dying in such indignity.

The Warsaw Ghetto and the Sobibor uprising were anomalies. It's sad but true. People went to their deaths with barely a protest.

We need to remember their example. better to have 30 bullets in you and one finger through the brain of a would-be killer than to have one bullet in your head as you kneel before your masters waiting to be exterminated.

[Regulator]

What a funny picture. Just a bunch of overfed front-end Baby Boomers, still pontificating with goofy, simpering smiles on their bliss ninny faces, 35 years after the '60s.

Life's always been easy on them, and they still think and act like children.

[Squantos]

You seem to post a lot of gun thread drive by's Kiriath......thanks for keeping us "informed"

[ExSoldier]

I know the left knows who we are. They will not get mine while i'm still breathing.

We don't make it very tough for them, either...on the intel front. If we did, we'd have already lost our rights. But they knew the "enemy" of tryanny in 1775, too. The mission to Lexinton and Concord was two fold: Seize and destroy militia munitions and act upon intelligence to arrest and detain enemy conspirators. The Tories had identified their enemy by their writings to secure independence. We do the same thing and have been subsequently tagged. There are other ways we are "profiled." Our memberships in associations and clubs. Our magazine subscriptions. Our CCW permits. Heck even our past service to God and country! Think they are unaware that the military (especially those in the so called combat arms) usually favor firearms rights heavily? Of course that's true less and less as soldiers enter the military as brainwashed products of the liberal public education system.

Speaking of service to God, I was watching the CNN interview with Janet Reno as she was saying that a person was a candidate for government intervention: If they regularly attended Church; attended a Bible study; believed in the Second Coming of Christ as something that may happen in their lifetime and owned a gun....

I fully agree with you. In fact when they do get my guns...I guarantee that they will be warmer than me! I was ruminating on this possibility as I was reviewing this months issue of America's First Freedom magazine (NRA -- I'm a lifemember and a certified instructor -- TAG!) and the articles on the New Orleans gun grab. That which we have been discussing as abstraction, is suddenly very real.

[Lancer_N3502A]

"Researchers, advocates and local officials can no longer access the federal data"

I wonder whom they might mean; The Brady Bunch, The DNC, The ACLU.

[JOE43270]

"Of course that's true less and less as soldiers enter the military as brainwashed products of the liberal public education system." That statement is very true and it makes me sick. With my own children and now my grandchildren I fight what comes out of those liberal public schools. Two of my Grandchildren are being home schooled because of this. I am a life member also ExSoldier and the statement Wayne Lapierre has made more than once is that "We are the NRA", I'm really glad that it is that way because We wouldn't be as successful if We weren't. I'm proud to be in with you ExSoldier. Merry Christmas to You and All of Yours. God Bless America and All Who have and Will Defend HER.

[metalurgist]

All this hoohaw about one cop being killed in NY City. Where's the outrage when some poor citizen that is forcibly disarmed by government decree is gunned down?

Is the life of one cop worth more than the lives of a couple hundred ordinary slobs?

I guess Bloomberg can't make any political hay off of Joe the bartenders slaying. Sickening.

[Joe Brower]

"ou seem to post a lot of gun thread drive by's Kiriath......thanks for keeping us "informed"

Seconded!

[pepperhead]

Consider that in the last few years Congress has:

Refused to reauthorize the assault weapons ban despite wide support for the ban among police groups.

Well since alot of the POS senators and congresscriters that voted for that law are now gone, that would seem like a no-brainer.

[Travis McGee]

Thirded!