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GOP Angry over Schwarzenegger Pick
Newsmax ^ | Friday, Dec. 2, 2005 3:22 p.m. EST | Carl Limbacher/Staff

Posted on 12/03/2005 11:25:15 AM PST by Kenny Bunk

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To: samantha
Think about it, who better to work really closely with the over-sexed womanizer Governor than someone that is totally grossed out sexually by men? Maria will have no worries with this Lesbian head to head with Arnold behind closed doors.

You know, the same thing occurred to me. It sure makes sense, the way you put it.

61 posted on 12/03/2005 2:47:09 PM PST by b9
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To: Amerigomag
No but if the rank and file isn't allowed to pick a candidate, they will stay home in November with deleterious consequences for the establishment. I don't really mind giving the RINOs a taste of their own medicine. What have they done for us, lately?

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

62 posted on 12/03/2005 2:49:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: DoughtyOne
Even if there is a primary, without financial support, few if any qualified individuals will seek the office as a Republican, fearing alienation and other repercussions from the party.

If a self financed renegade should emerge and threaten the Austrian the Democrats would rise to the Austrian's aid with cross party registration/voting in the primary to protect their own.

Wasp is correct. Without a change of heart from the CAGOP, any challenger to the Austrian faces an almost impossible battle. The best a challenger could do is to further accentuate the ghastly mistake the CAGOP made in late 2003 and compounded again in February 2005.

Regardless of the outcome of the primary, the Democrat candidates are so weak that the Austrian will likely prevail in Nov 2006 unless a sizable portion of the Republican Party chooses not to cast a vote for governor. Republicans will vote next November but some may skip the top of the ballot to protest a liberal being foisted on them by the party leadership.

63 posted on 12/03/2005 2:50:47 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: DoughtyOne
I haven't heard a whimper in public from so-called Republican leaders regarding Schwarzenegger's blunders, with the exception of McClintock on occassion

Really? What were McClintock's public statements?

64 posted on 12/03/2005 2:55:33 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady

I don't have any statements in mind, but I would think he's probably made some over time.


65 posted on 12/03/2005 3:00:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: doodlelady
Really? What were McClintock's public statements?

Here's one from just 3 weeks ago:

"Whatever the Governor does in response to the election, it is imperative that he levels with the people on the actual fiscal condition of the state and that he is very clear and uncompromising in presenting the solutions that must ultimately resolve it. And when watered-down and meaningless changes are all that emerge from the legislature, he must resist the temptation to proclaim them as anything more."

66 posted on 12/03/2005 3:04:54 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Seems to me we're selling those on our side fairly short here. It's obvious that Schwarzenegger is a nightmare as sound policy goes. I think the electorate on the right can see that. I don't think a sound candidate would be that hard a sell in the primary.


67 posted on 12/03/2005 3:06:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Not that I've heard.
He' s been remarkably supportive.
Even his endorsement of the props was marginalized by Tom's fair weather supporters.


68 posted on 12/03/2005 3:07:01 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady

As for the suporters, I know what you mean. I would have liked to have seen people be more supportive, but some seem more inclined to commit political suicide than help someone they don't like do something that was worthy.

As for Tom being mostly supportive, I think he tried to walk a fine line. His criticisms would sound like sour grapes if wasn't careful. I think he's tried to rise above that and not carp when he probably should have more often than he did.


69 posted on 12/03/2005 3:11:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: doodlelady
He' s been remarkably supportive.

Yes he has ... since the party endorsed him for state wide office.

Prior to that point he was candid in his appraisal of the Austrian's policies. Dozen of examples are contained in our archives. What is absent from his public pronouncements is any personal criticism of the Austrian, to McClintock's credit.

70 posted on 12/03/2005 3:14:24 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: DoughtyOne
some seem more inclined to commit political suicide than help someone they don't like do something that was worthy.

Very well put.
I hope Tom's maturity is not lost on the voters next election time.

71 posted on 12/03/2005 3:19:03 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady

If he can win the Lt. Governor's position, he'll have a great launching board in 2010. Geez, 2010. Ug.


72 posted on 12/03/2005 3:21:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DoughtyOne
If he can win the Lt. Governor's position...

If we as Republicans could show some unity of principle, taking Tom's cue, it would carry him right into the Governor's seat, no matter how long it takes.

73 posted on 12/03/2005 3:31:55 PM PST by b9
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To: DoughtyOne
but some seem more inclined to commit political suicide than help someone they don't like do something that was worthy.

Absolutely inaccurate.

Almost every conservative on this forum supported the Austrian when he made the few conservative decisions of his short political career. Even when those few decisions were made at the tip of the mob's pitchforks.

He received praise from one and all when he vetoed the homosexual marriage bill, the alien recognition bill and challenged the status quo of political districting.

He rightfully received condemnation for his liberal fiscal policies (both budget proposals and both attempts at borrowing), his expansion of cradle to grave social programs (beginning with Prop 49 before he was governor), his taking of personal property rights (Sierra Conservancy), his dimishment of Second Amendment rights, his appointment of liberal judges (which continues to this day) and his appointment of liberal activists and Democrat Party policy wonks to his personal staff (which also continues to this day).

Please refuse to sup the Kool-Kid being freely given by the Republican Party loyalists. They accelerated the mess we face in California today and they aren't going to provide a solution, only bigger problems.

74 posted on 12/03/2005 3:35:23 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: doodlelady
If we as Republicans could show some unity of principle,

Once again a gentle reminder. We aren't Republicans. We're conservatives.

This isn't the FreeRepublican forum. It's the FreeRepulic forum.

Check your party cloak at the door and join the group to rid ourselves of a liberal political class typified by the Austrian.

75 posted on 12/03/2005 3:40:54 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

For some time I rarely came on the forum to find much of anything positve regarding Schwarzenegger. That's okay, he hadn't done much of anything to be praised for and plenty to be critcized for. Still, there were plenty of posts taking him to task basicly all the time.

When it came to the proposition recently, I didn't run into endless threads praising him or voicing support for them. Now perhaps they were here and I missed them, but going by the volume of criticizims what were on the forum when Schwarzenegger did things they didn't like, I would have expected to see a lot of posts supporting those propositions if folks were supportive.

Once again, I didn't see it.


76 posted on 12/03/2005 3:47:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Amerigomag

I'm a Republican, as opposed to a Democrat.
I'll never be ashamed of that.

Conservatism is not a contest to me, it's my life.
That's why I proudly vote Republican.


77 posted on 12/03/2005 3:55:38 PM PST by b9
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To: SierraWasp
both Gerald Parsky and Darrel Issa threw their hats into the ring at the February convention... But the dumb delegates got stampeded into swooning for Schwartzie Baby and voted for a one time rule change allowing them to then vote to prematurely endorse him for Governor way back then!!!

Why do you keep saying this, when it didn't happen?

78 posted on 12/03/2005 3:57:32 PM PST by GVnana
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To: airborne
He's a Republican politician in California who is doing whatever it takes to get reelected.

...and are you implying that pissing off his Republican base is the way to do that? At this rate he's gunning for 20% in the general election.

79 posted on 12/03/2005 4:09:55 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Maybe even less. The mushy middle isn't going come out for the expedient politician. Why should they? And the Left will reject him for not joining them and the Right will reject him for his double-cross of them. Arnold had better plan to going back to make movies. To think Republicans pushed him once for President, its so embarrassing. But we're fortunate he can hardly do more harm in what is after all a very Blue State.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

80 posted on 12/03/2005 4:15:43 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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