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'84 Alito Memo Backed Police Who Shot Unarmed Suspect
L A Slimes ^ | Dec 3, 2005 | David G. Savage,

Posted on 12/03/2005 12:10:38 PM PST by radar101

Supreme Court nominee Samuel A. Alito Jr.'s views on abortion caused a stir this week, but another memo that surfaced from his years as a Reagan administration lawyer was notable for its strong support of the police.

Alito wrote that he saw no constitutional problem with a police officer shooting and killing an unarmed teenager who was fleeing after a $10 home burglary.

"I think the shooting [in this case] can be justified as reasonable," Alito wrote in a 1984 memo to Justice Department officials.

Because the officer could not know for sure why a suspect was fleeing, the courts should not set a rule forbidding the use of deadly force, he said.

"I do not think the Constitution provides an answer to the officer's dilemma," Alito advised.

A year later, however, the Supreme Court used the same case to set a firm national rule against the routine use of "deadly force" against fleeing suspects who pose no danger.

"It is not better that all felony suspects die than that they escape," wrote Justice Byron White for a 6-3 majority in Tennessee vs. Garner. "Where the suspect poses no immediate threat to the officer and no threat to others, the harm resulting from failing to apprehend him does not justify the use of deadly force to do so."

The 4th Amendment forbids "unreasonable searches and seizures" by the government, and the high court said that killing an unarmed suspect who was subject to arrest amounted to an "unreasonable seizure."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alito; judicial; justice; law; legal; leo

1 posted on 12/03/2005 12:10:39 PM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

He supports Cops over degenerates, a.k.a. Liberals.


2 posted on 12/03/2005 12:11:39 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

Will this same ruling apply to Terrorists fleeing the scene?


3 posted on 12/03/2005 12:14:20 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: radar101

If a cop has a gun trained on you, and you've been breaking and entering......YOU BETTER STOP, if he orders you to.....or face the consequences. Is THAT so hard to understand?


4 posted on 12/03/2005 12:16:28 PM PST by goodnesswins (I'll fight a war in my time......so my grandchildren have peace in theirs.)
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To: radar101
I have absolutely nothing against this ruling ... so long as the exact same standard applies to citizens.
5 posted on 12/03/2005 12:19:39 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: stocksthatgoup
It is really not clear to what the Tennessee case applies. It has been interpreted by "Liberal" city governments as an excuse to hamstring the Police, but in my opinion should be narrowly construed. Frankly, I am not sure that it would contradict the Alito Memo cited.

A burglar would appear to be an inherent threat, in need of apprehension. When a cop yells "stop," the fleeing felon should expect some sort of follow up, if he does not.

There is far too much erring in favor of the criminal. I agree that it should require proof "beyond a reasonable doubt," to convict--and I have won acquittal for more Defendants than I can count in the Court Room. But when a cop yells for a fleeing felon to stop, and he does not, I would never accuse the cop of using excess force if he draws his gun and fires. Some would, but not I. Respect for the authority of the cop to act, in that situation, is essential to effective crime deterrence.

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6 posted on 12/03/2005 12:30:40 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: radar101

Fleeing a felony is a shooting offense in Arkansas. Probably is in alot of other States too.


7 posted on 12/03/2005 12:51:16 PM PST by therut
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To: radar101
Alito wrote that he saw no constitutional problem with a police officer shooting and killing an unarmed teenager who was fleeing after a $10 home burglary.

The same should apply to citizens, not just the cops. The reason that we have the crime problems that we do is because so many politicians don't see this like Alito does. Politicians think everybody should be helpless so that the cops have to go out and catch these dirtball criminals after they've already left behind a trail of broken lives and dead bodies.

When a homeowner does whack a criminal in his house, they will still probably wind up paying thousands of dollars in legal fees. The cops think only they should be armed and the govt. is full of nutjob liberal prosecutors that will charge a guy with murder for protecting his family.

8 posted on 12/03/2005 1:06:01 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: therut

Sounds like we need him on the Court to overturn that stupid Supreme Court decision.

A fleeing suspect doesn't pose much of a hazard til he turns and shoots you... or perhaps blows himself up.


9 posted on 12/03/2005 1:06:33 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: radar101
Alito wrote that he saw no constitutional problem with a police officer shooting and killing an unarmed teenager who was fleeing after a $10 home burglary.

Standard trick here. Are we supposed to be pretending that the policeman knew that it was $10?

10 posted on 12/03/2005 1:38:53 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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