1 posted on
12/03/2005 12:55:42 PM PST by
lizol
To: lizol
What does Russia mean aimed agaisnt us? The missle shield isn't aimed at anyone, it is for defense. If I were poland I would be asking Russia why they don't want Poland to have a defense against missles.
2 posted on
12/03/2005 12:57:42 PM PST by
calex59
(Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
To: lizol
How dare you try to defend yourself against our missiles!
The audacity of it all!
To: lizol
4 posted on
12/03/2005 1:02:57 PM PST by
IronChefSakai
(Today's theme ingredient is... Budget Deficit! Allez Cuisine!)
To: lizol
I suspect it is no coincidence that this information was made public by Poland the same week it also released previously secret documents documenting Russians plan for nuclear war in Europe during the cold war. Basically, Poland ended up cinders in that plan as well as much of Germany.
The main benefit of basing a missle defense in Poland will come not against Russia; but when the inevitable Iranian nukes are on missles that can range to Europe. An SDI in Poland is well placed to stiffen European spines, in that case.
To: lizol
uh ... Poland has troops deployed at our side in the war on terror.
Iran is a primary sponser of Islamic terror.
Iran is developing long range, nuclear capable missles.
Iran is developing nuclear warheads for those missles.
Poland is well advised to be part of the global / European defense umbrella.
All this may have nothing at all to do with their reasoning. It just kinda jumps off the page at me. Nobody actually expects the Russian to launch missle strikes against the west at this point.
8 posted on
12/03/2005 1:22:52 PM PST by
cdrw
(Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
To: lizol
Hasn't Russia dissolved yet? What's holding up the show?
To: lizol
10 posted on
12/03/2005 1:35:14 PM PST by
budanski
To: lizol
I don't expect a nuclear conflict between Russia and the West."
Well, if Russia continues acting like the enemy of the U.S. and generally the west, we need to continue to defend ourselves.
By the way, how many missiles does Russia still have pointing at the U.S. and Europe?
11 posted on
12/03/2005 1:36:55 PM PST by
adorno
To: lizol
Maybe the Russian's and Poles would consider returning to their pre-1939 borders and then everyone will be happy, well almost everyone.
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12 posted on
12/03/2005 2:37:02 PM PST by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is never free)
To: lizol
"Of course (such a system) would be aimed against us," General Yury Baluyevsky, chief of Russia's general staff, told Gazeta Wyborcza in an interview published on Friday. "Rockets from other states would never fly to the West over Polish soil." Nuclear warheads are supposed to explode over their targets.
His point would be valid only if the shield is designed to destroy targets over Polish soil, which would sort of defeat the purpose, from Poland's perspective.
14 posted on
12/03/2005 2:55:31 PM PST by
impatient
(Will the last member of civilization please turn out the lights?)
To: lizol
The Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, is one of us.
As a student in the 1980's, Sikorski went into exile in Britain to oppose Poland's Moscow-backed communist rulers. Sikorski later lived in the US and often wrote for National Review.
In the post-communist Solidarity government, Sikorsky was appointed deputy defense minister. He returned to the US after the ex-communists came into power, again writing for National Review and joining a conservative think tank.
Sikorski was recently elected to the Polish Senate as a pro-US, free market conservative, and was then named defense minister. Look for great things from him and from the new Polish government.
Poland is the most loyal friend that we have in continental Europe, with the people and government both resolutely pro-US. Providing that we back them, the Poles have no fear of displeasing the Russians, regarding it even as a source of national satisfaction.
To: lizol
...sweet news from Poland! Cheers for Poland! It will be a safer country, while the rest of Europe chats endlessly with Iran and its evil allies.
20 posted on
12/04/2005 2:06:32 AM PST by
familyop
("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
To: lizol
21 posted on
12/04/2005 7:25:15 AM PST by
jokar
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To: lizol
Russia is arming Iran and they have the nerve to itch about Poland.
To: lizol
Rockets from other states would never fly to the West over Polish soil What? This is intolerable! How do Poles dare!
26 posted on
12/07/2005 11:51:30 AM PST by
REactor
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