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A SILLY NONCITIZEN STUNT (alien suffrage--Dims desperate for new voting bases)
NY POST ^ | November 19, 2005 | EDITORIAL

Posted on 12/04/2005 5:47:19 AM PST by Liz

In his last six weeks in office, Councilman Bill Perkins is trying to push through a bill to let noncitizens vote in municipal elections.

It's a bad idea. On Monday, Perkins held a hearing of his Governmental Operations Committee, at which left-wing and union activists cheered on his efforts.

The session also provided his terminally odious colleague, Charles Barron, with a platform to cast the issue in purely racial terms: "White men just have too much power," said the Brooklyn Democrat (who once said he felt the need to slap the "closest white person . . . just for my mental health").

Added Barron: "They just don't want to give up on power." (Man, he's getting boring.)

Until two years ago, noncitizens could vote in city school-board elections; they lost that privilege when the boards were abolished.

Legal noncitizens should have the vote, so the argument goes, because they pay taxes like everyone else.

But noncitizens don't have the same commitment to the city — or anywhere else in the country — as those who've taken the time and trouble to obtain citizenship.

And though the "alien suffrage" movement says it wants to limit that right to legal immigrants and only for municipal elections, its next steps would come soon enough: Allowing illegal immigrants — excuse us, "undocumented Americans" — to vote, and in all elections.

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Also one of Hillary's favorite ways to get more votes.

Clinton sponsored a tax refund for Puerto Rico residents that could pay out more than $50M over 10 years.. It lets some Puerto Rico residents — who pay no federal income tax — to get child-credit refunds on their Social Security and Medicare taxes.

Guess why? (snicker)

Puerto Rican support is crucial to her re-election — and to a run in 2008. She got helped into the Senate when Bill pardoned FALN terrorists.

Hillary calculatedly knows Puerto Ricans are born American citizens, ready-made voters when they move to the US.

Next she'll offer tax-paid tickets, homes, and living expenses to get them to move here.

1 posted on 12/04/2005 5:47:20 AM PST by Liz
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To: OldFriend
The last round of vote buying for her heinous consisted of freeing Puerto Rican terrorists. Perhaps there are no more terrorists left behind bars to set free and this is the next best thing.

There's always "alien suffrage."

2 posted on 12/04/2005 5:54:34 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

She's already on record as wanting convicted felons to have the right to vote.


3 posted on 12/04/2005 5:55:54 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Liz
It ain't just the dims!

4 yrs after 9-11 and still no real effort from the pubs to secure our border.

4 posted on 12/04/2005 5:57:07 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: OldFriend

Dim desperation is setting in, alright.

Look for other base escalation moves.


5 posted on 12/04/2005 5:58:23 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: TexasCajun

An outrage to be sure.

The US ought to put more pressure on Mexico to control its borders.

Why should we have to continually pick up the tab for their citizens?


6 posted on 12/04/2005 6:00:43 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

Do my taxes, which pay for all manner of international aid, entitle me to vote in the elections of all countries which benefit?


7 posted on 12/04/2005 6:01:07 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (No controlling legal authority.)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Heheh....yeah, sure.


It's also the epitome of entitlmentism that we have to bow to all the cultures that land here, but their native lands would not life a finger to celebrate American culture.

Did these people ever ehar of assimilation.

But wait....assimilation....that's politically incorrect {{{{{gag}}}}}.


8 posted on 12/04/2005 6:06:32 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
The US ought to put more pressure on Mexico to control its borders.

Why would Presidente Fox want to stop the billions of US dollars flowing back into Mexico from the illegal immigrants to their Mexican families & Mexico economy?

Don't look at Mexico for any assistance on this issue.

9 posted on 12/04/2005 6:12:48 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Liz

Wait until dems. realize Humanzees may be real. It's an untapped base that could put them on the road to victory.


10 posted on 12/04/2005 6:14:51 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: Liz

Those who can't wait for the illegal to become legal is the beginning which is being witnessed by those who are not too ignorant to understand the consequences. Law and order has no meaning to those who would wish this curse upon this nation. If American citizens don't believe the enemy is inside the gates, this article should convince them. Nowhere in the world in any nation on the face of the earth is this legal. Making the illegal ... legal is akin to bringing chaos out of law and order. The goals of such people is worse than treason, yet we turn a blind eye each and every day and allow these people to become more bold and more brazen.


11 posted on 12/04/2005 6:18:19 AM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: gubamyster

ping


12 posted on 12/04/2005 6:40:51 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Liz
Item 2: If Illegal aliens are allowed to vote, even in local elections, it will be another unmistakable signal that American citizenship, and therefore America itself, is finished. If the millions of illegal aliens in America are granted amnesty and get the vote, it will mean open immigration and a giant step toward Civil War II.

From the Civil War II checklist.

13 posted on 12/04/2005 7:25:01 AM PST by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Liz
I do not see why allowing every illegal in the city to vote would change anything politically there.

Look at the freakshow already running the place.

So it gets worse yet again, like it will not anyhow.

This just chases out the people you need to build a viable economy and draws in the people who destroy economies. Give the people what they want and wall off the city so they don't start emigrating when the place finally collapses into chaos.
14 posted on 12/04/2005 7:45:48 AM PST by mmercier (so it goes)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


15 posted on 12/04/2005 8:31:45 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Liz
Hillary calculatedly knows Puerto Ricans are born American citizens, ready-made voters when they move to the US. Next she'll offer tax-paid tickets, homes, and living expenses to get them to move here.

NYC has been there. Already done that.

A 1940's-50's city councilman named Vito Marcantonio was facing certain defeat, having lost the favor of Tammany Hall. He single-handedly brought in thousands of Puerto Rican families to his district and stayed in office for a while longer. Those who couldn't stand the climate, he flew in for the election. A lot of trouble, but this was before computerized vote fraud. At least these old-time crooks had the decency to make sure the people they registered were citizens.

Other councilmen picked up the idea, and the rest is history. At one point, there were probably more Puerto Ricans in NYC than in Puerto Rico. Nowadays, illegal aliens from the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and Central America probably outnumber Puerto Ricans ... and outvote them, too.

Hillary, BTW, was the beneficiary of quite a bit of vote fraud in NYC. Someday, if I live long enough, I just might hear a Republican official talk about vote fraud.

16 posted on 12/04/2005 9:27:50 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Liz
Lets put the illegal immigration question in a new if fanciful context:
Can you imagine a U.S. citizen illegally entering Quebec, signing up for Canadian welfare, getting a free apartment, free schooling and healthcare? Can you imagine such a person refusing to learn French and demanding the right to vote? Can you imagine such a person demanding that people stop speaking French, adopt English, and demand that Quebec leave Canada and join the U.S. as part of a "Greater U.S. Empire"? Can you imagine Quebec bending over backwards to accomodate people who want to scam the system and eventually destroy Quebec? Can you imagine leftist politicians saying that since the illegal immigrant is an American, he somehow has more rights than a Canadian citizen?
17 posted on 12/04/2005 9:53:13 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: TexasCajun
The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be taking care of its own people, not "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers. Mexico can well-afford it. Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires.

According to a CNN report, Mexico sits on oil reserves worth about $400 billion, but Mexico's state-owned oil company, Pemex, doesn't have the investment funds to tap those reserves, and Mexico's Congress refuses to allow foreign investment in Pemex. However, some observers say this is due to gov't corruption, and the obsession to line their own pockets.

Adding insult to injury American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico. According to Visa International--which is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

America should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- 50%, say -- on every unexplained foreign remittance.

America needs to seal our borders and let Vincente Fox know that we will cut off every penny in aid he gets from the United States.

The unmitigated contempt for America, and working-class Americans cannot go unchallenged.

18 posted on 12/04/2005 10:00:51 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Kenny Bunk
At one point, there were probably more Puerto Ricans in NYC than in Puerto Rico. Nowadays, illegal aliens from the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and Central America probably outnumber Puerto Ricans...... and outvote them, too.

That's the vaunted "diversity" loved by liberals-----or as its more commonly known---"welfare and voter fraud."

Hillary, BTW, was the beneficiary of quite a bit of vote fraud in NYC. Someday, if I live long enough, I just might hear a Republican official talk about vote fraud.

Without voter fraud, there'd be no Dumbocrats in office.

19 posted on 12/04/2005 10:05:31 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Vito Marcantonio was the name of a Congressman (presumably the same man as the city councilman) who was such an extreme leftist (I'm not sure if he ever actually belonged to the Communist Party) that Richard Nixon used similarities between his voting record and Helen Gahagan Douglas' record to effect in his race for the Senate in 1950. Douglas was the wife of actor Melvyn Douglas. Nixon called her the Pink Lady.


20 posted on 12/04/2005 10:52:38 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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