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[Tookie Williams] Clemency bid to include claims of errors in trial
Contra Costa Times ^ | 12/4/5 | John Simerman

Posted on 12/04/2005 8:37:33 AM PST by SmithL

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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
The claim that the witnesses against Mr. Williams are not
"the best character types" is hilarious. Would they be
satisfied if Mr. Williams took a cub scout troop with a
video camera and satellite uplink? He hung around shady and
murderous people, they testified against him. He was convicted and sentenced to die for his crimes.

That and the surviving families have not asked for clemency
means that Mr. Williams has earned his fate....
21 posted on 12/04/2005 9:15:09 AM PST by padre35
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To: Prime Choice

After learning of Williams calloused inhumane murderous brutality and racism, I share your views to the letter.


22 posted on 12/04/2005 9:17:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: doug from upland

There was an editor of a Compton paper on the John & Ken show Friday. He said the majority there does not support clemency.


23 posted on 12/04/2005 9:19:39 AM PST by SouthTexas (A Merry and Blessed Christmas to all.)
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How many people are now dead because of the evil street gang this thug started? I've rarely seen a case where someone deserves the death penalty as much as this horrid individual.


24 posted on 12/04/2005 9:22:41 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmithL

"He's changed, he's done so much good since then." - That's what the libs are saying. The cry of a repentant man is never "It was somebody else's fault."


25 posted on 12/04/2005 9:25:45 AM PST by feedback doctor (Liberalism is like a religion - islam)
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To: SouthTexas

I heard the guy. How insulting to decent black citizens from South Central to think they would support someone who helped destroy their community.


26 posted on 12/04/2005 9:26:13 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: SmithL

Williams should get down on his knees and give thanks that the State has given him a life span much longer than the average for his followers. 24 years of being granted almost every legal desire except freedom. Shouldn't have been over 5.


27 posted on 12/04/2005 9:28:22 AM PST by tertiary01
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To: doug from upland
Tried to find his name but could not. He was also said to have disrupted a press/news gathering (read propaganda).

Wish I could give credit where credit is due.

28 posted on 12/04/2005 9:37:35 AM PST by SouthTexas (A Merry and Blessed Christmas to all.)
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To: Prime Choice
Wanna bet he gives him clemency? Even half of FOX news (O'Reilly, Colmes and a few others) are rooting for clemency; I'd say because they have read too much misinformation and not the actual transcript of the case. This man sure didn't grant clemency to the poor people he murdered and then joked about how they died with gurgling sounds, etc... or the children left without a parent.

I don't think he deserves clemency now... oh and these great Children's books they want to give him a Nobel Peace Prize for writing (I think they were ghost-written myself) sold less than 400 copies..... so how many kids can 400 books save?

29 posted on 12/04/2005 9:45:04 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SmithL
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected all of Williams' arguments about the witnesses who testified.

Most damning part of the whole article.

So you wrote a childrens' book, Tookie? Very nice.

You're entitled to one -- no, two -- gold star stickers on your forehead before they administer the needle.

30 posted on 12/04/2005 9:46:24 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SouthTexas

What is it about Hollywood these days? and their desire to bed down with the worst of the worst in our society.


31 posted on 12/04/2005 9:46:41 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SmithL

Arnold will woos out and commute the killer's sentence, especially now that he has a left-wing commie faggot on his staff. Oh well, don't blame me, I voted for McC.


32 posted on 12/04/2005 9:46:45 AM PST by lardog
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To: JTN

"it is an occasion for sadness that it ever had to come to that"

I agree dancing on his grave may be a tad morbid. OTOH, in some ways I can legitibately see the cause for celebration in the sense that at long last we may witness justice being done.

I'm not sad when our system works (albeit belatedly).


33 posted on 12/04/2005 9:47:42 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: SmithL

Those "errors" have been appealled over and over again. The most recent one was just last week.
All have appeals been denied.
Tookie is a thug and a criminal.
Mike Farrell can stand up there and tell the world how great Tookie is, but you can bet your last dollar that Farrell won't take Tookie into his home and be totally responsible for his behavior, with penalties for both Tookie and Farrell when the inevitable happens.
The lies from Snoop Dog - a former CRIPS GANG member- and all the others crying about poor Tookie makes me puke.
They all need to spend some personal time with the VICTIMS of Tookie's life style.


34 posted on 12/04/2005 9:48:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Viking2002

String the animal up in the town square, and be done with it. ""

Tookie is a pit bull in a human skin, IMO. Cannot change his behavior-EVER.


35 posted on 12/04/2005 9:49:49 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Wanna bet he gives him clemency?

We're dealing with a RINO governor who's beholden to his Leftist advisors. All bets are off.

36 posted on 12/04/2005 9:56:07 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: Pessimist
I agree dancing on his grave may be a tad morbid. OTOH, in some ways I can legitibately see the cause for celebration in the sense that at long last we may witness justice being done. I'm not sad when our system works (albeit belatedly).

Agreed. A feeling of satisfaction that justice has finally been done is wholly appropriate (assuming he is guilty, and again I have no opinion on this). My problem is with the people who are giddy with thoughts of torturing the man to death.

Execute him and let his soul be on its way. But in demanding justice for "this monster" some people are becoming monsters themselves.

37 posted on 12/04/2005 10:25:37 AM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

They are just clueless without their scripts.


38 posted on 12/04/2005 12:10:43 PM PST by SouthTexas (A Merry and Blessed Christmas to all.)
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To: Pessimist

I would never dance on Tookies grave. I might urinate on it.

No cure for Rabid dogs except euthanisation.


39 posted on 12/04/2005 2:23:52 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Prime Choice
Yeah, right..."errors" that didn't come up during the assloads of appeals that this jagov blew thousands upon thousands of tax dollars on.

Well this is where Schwarzenegger must earn his keep. He can look at every single piece of possible evidence that the courts technicalitied out against the defense (or against the prosecution for that matter). He's the judge of last resort.

40 posted on 12/04/2005 2:29:52 PM PST by The Red Zone
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