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Posted on 12/04/2005 10:34:44 AM PST by lizol
Conservative Poland Roils European Union
International Herald Tribune Published: December 4, 2005 By GRAHAM BOWLEY
BRUSSELS - When Polish members of the European Parliament placed an anti-abortion display in a parliamentary corridor in Strasbourg, France, recently, Ana Gomes, a Socialist legislator from Portugal, felt compelled to act, she said.
The display showed children in a concentration camp, linking abortion and Nazi crimes. "We found this deeply offensive," Ms. Gomes said. "We tried to remove it." A loud scuffle ensued as she and the Poles traded insults before the display was bundled away by Parliament guards.
But the matter does not end there. It was the latest skirmish in what some here see as an incipient culture war in the heart of Europe, a clash of values that has intensified since countries from Central and Eastern Europe that are experiencing an increase in the influence of the Roman Catholic Church joined the European Union last year.
In the 732-seat European Parliament, and more widely in the European Union, the clash extends beyond abortion to issues like women's rights and homosexuality.
"New groups have come in from Poland, the Czech Republic, Latvia, and Catholicism is certainly becoming a very angry voice against what it sees as a liberal E.U.," said Michael Cashman, 54, a European Parliament member from Britain who has campaigned for gay rights. "On women's rights and gay equality, we are fighting battles that we thought we had won years ago."
With a population of 40 million, Poland is the biggest of the 10 states that joined the European Union last year. It is still uncertain, 19 months later, how Poland, a formerly Communist and overwhelmingly Catholic nation, will fit in with the other members on issues from foreign policy to economic management.
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Conservative CATHOLIC Poland Roils European Union
It is precisely conservatism and pride in one's own civilzational values that'll save what parts of the west can be saved from the oncoming islamic armageddon. Am happy we're born in the God-fearing, gun-owning, conservative heavy US of A!
I Like It!
O yeah, it definitely is. And shows so much respect for Poland and the Poles (sarcasm)
Hmmm, interesting. Portugal is one of the few nations in Europe that has abortion laws in place. They're actually much stricter than we have here in the US. I believe church attendance is higher there than it is elsewehre in Europe, as well. Sounds like this woman was quite the activist.
Catholic Poland bump!
Soooo.....give us some hints or websites or places to go so we can do the same....purchase more Polish goods. Pretty please.
Poland is showing more courage than France, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Luxemberg, Holland combined. (sorry for any others I missed)
Mrs. L has been admiring the stoneware for years so this Christmas I decided to suprise her with some.
We'll also lay in some good Polish vodka for the holidays. As if I needed an excuse to keep good vodka around the house...
thanks.....I'll check Costco out....and the liquor store!
Thanks....I'm having a little trouble getting it to load...but, I'll try again later.
Bravo Poland! I wish my ancestral homeland - Greece - could be as outspoken and supportive of the innocent and life.
Conservative CATHOLIC Poland Roils Socialist CATHOLIC Eourpean Union.
Here is an excellent website for showcasing products from Poland.
I thought that a Krakus ham was mooning from a moving car with cheeks firmly pressed on the glass?????? a kind of pressed ham as it were.
Never heard that one....from your shall we say "vivid" description one could say a Hillary Ham.
it is a joke me and the boys (the ones I use to hang out with when single) have used since the 1970's.
Yes, your suggestion that Hillary being the 'butt' of the joke works fer me.
Check my post #21 for products from Poland.
What vodka do you recommend? I normally drink Ketel One or Rain.
Dirty Socialist EUrotrash will go to great lengths to destroy traditional culture.
Polish chocolate candy is excellent, especially the "Wedel" brand.
How much is a bottle of Chopin vodka in US?
Chopin $33/l, Belvedere $35
So you must come to Poland if you like it, it's more or less half of that price over here. :-)))
Air fare to Poland is about a thousand $ - that raises the price by quite a bit! Dinner at the Belvedere restaurant might be worth the trip...
I think you can get a better airfare than that if you search. I visited Poland two years ago and paid much less flying on LOT (had to leave out of Newark.) It's a great country to visit -- an interesting stage of transition. Cracow is a beautiful city, with two other must-see sites in the vicinity -- the incredibly powerful Auschwitz and the magnificent salt mine sculptures nearby. Amazing to see how Warsaw was rebuilt -- and now there are a lot of chic shops and great restaurants. Gdansk is likewise well worth a visit, both for the beauty of the town and the sites associated with Solidarity. Beautiful castles, pleasant countryside, and friendly people who like the US. Yes, it has its problems -- the legacy of Communism and the older people trapped in the change. But it is making great strides, and for Freepers who like to travel, it's a wonderful destination.
If Poland ever wanted to leave the EU, I propose we invite Poland to become our next state. Boy, that will really irritate Russia, Western Europe and the libs in this country! (I can dream, can't I?) :-)
Polart (1-800-278-9393)in Sarasota, FL has a wide variety of Polish products, including ceramics, books, music. How ironic it is that someone from Portugal - a country that sat out WWII - presumes to lecture the Poles on matters of principle.
Hey, hey, when did you last buy wodka? Half a litre of Chopin costs about 43-45 zlotys, so a litre of it is about 26$. Not such a big difference. Besides, a Pole who would want to buy Chopin must have something wrong with his brain.
Idealna vodka (Lublin's finest) is best, and about 1/100 the price of Chopin.
And we are thinking of a trip to Poland next summer. I have always wanted to go there and I want to support them in any way we can.
Are there Polish FReepers?
If so, I would be interested to converse with you.
"Fly or not, never LOT"
or in Polish: "Polec LOTem, nie wrocisz z powrotem" - I came by those slogans honestly - over a bottle of Belvedere shared w. some LOT pilots.
I agree though, Poland is a great place to visit - the spirit of the people, their openness, hospitality, wit, creativity, make it a very special experience.
Wysmienity....Ok what does it mean? Something nice I hope.
What does it mean according to you? Something not nice I guess. What did you have in mind, explain please?
Wysmienity means excellent.
Thanks and thanks to the excellent Polish products.
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