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FNC: Judge in Texas throws out Part of charges against DeLay(Upholding charge on money laundering)
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Posted on 12/05/2005 1:38:06 PM PST by John Jorsett

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; bogusearle; delay; dopeyearle; earlegetshosed; earleisapuke; earlesucks; jackassearle; pardon; politicalvendetta; ronnieearle; ruling; stewpidpigearle; tomdelay
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To: California Patriot
Since you have joined this site and all what you post is doom and gloom and attempt to demoralize and divide.
341 posted on 12/05/2005 5:56:02 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: TankerKC

You wrote that yahoo news headlined their story with,"DeLay`s money laundering charges upheld". They picked the story from the AP.That means most of the MSM will report it that way.
One more reason that the new media is killing them


342 posted on 12/05/2005 6:11:24 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: JNL
Unbeknownst to many, the word "xmas" was not invented by carnal merchants trying to commercialize Christmas. The word is actually an old English one. The "x" in Christmas is the Greek letter chi, which is the first letter in the Greek word for "Christ." Thus, "xmas" is simply a shortened version of "Christmas."

I didn't know that...thanks for that info. ;o)

343 posted on 12/05/2005 6:16:06 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: dubyawhoiluv

A hearing for earle on 'misconduct' will occur soon this is when the laundering charge will be thrown out...


344 posted on 12/05/2005 6:18:59 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: M. Thatcher

everyone in NY or DC is a lawyer... LOL


345 posted on 12/05/2005 6:28:18 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: dfwgator

You nailed it.


346 posted on 12/05/2005 6:34:12 PM PST by Big Horn (We need more Tom DeLay's)
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To: Purrcival
I really wanted all of this stuff out of the way so DeLay could reclaim his rightful position in the House.

the dims knew this would not stick but they wanted DeLay out of the way when they started pulling their shenanigans. If it drags on out as the dims plan, the Repubs should toss their little self-imposed rule. We need the Hammer back in there. Now.

347 posted on 12/05/2005 6:40:20 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: jveritas

I never attempt to demoralize anyone except people who cross some kind of line into incivility, as you have by more or less calling me a troll.

I don't try to divide anyone. I try to express my honest views honestly, and sure, that has a tendency to divide those who agree with me from those who disagree.

Tough beans, "Veritas." I don't go in for baseless, chest-beating optimism. I think we Republicans and conservatives are going through a very rough patch, and, to vary the metaphor, I won't pretend to see a light at the end of the tunnel if I don't.

Morale is important, but I think I've done my share to boost it, and others seem to take care of that anyway. What is often lacking on FReep is clear-headed assessments of our situation, and I try to call 'em as I see 'em. Don't ever trash me for that. It just makes you look like a fool.


348 posted on 12/05/2005 6:45:55 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot

Listen CP. We see your likes all the times on this forum. People who pretend they are realistic and make all the wrong doom and gloom predictions about the Republicans, President Bush, the war, the economy, etc... and they are wrong over 95% of the time. Last year this forum was full of morons predicting the utter defeat of President Bush and the Republican party and they could not be more wrong. This year the same crowd of defeatism and utter pessimism are infiltrating every thread and spread their wrong predictions of doom and gloom. You are one of them and you are very wrong.


349 posted on 12/05/2005 6:51:18 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: 3D-JOY
Anti-christians went around with paint and wherever they found a Merry Christmas sign they X'd out the Christ in the word...leaving Xmas. Taking the Christ out of Christmas...so using Xmas is only doing that too.

Actually, no. Our "X" is identical to the Greek letter chi, the first letter of the Greek word Christos, or Christ. Xmas is actually an honorific abbreviation that recent Christians have misunderstood. (Not that I'm recommending its use; it's not as if "Christmas" is difficult to spell in its entirety.)

350 posted on 12/05/2005 6:53:06 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: marajade
everyone in NY or DC is a lawyer... LOL

Yes. Quite. My point.

Sorry, assumed my sarcasm was obvious.

351 posted on 12/05/2005 7:00:12 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

it was... just wanted to acknowledge it


352 posted on 12/05/2005 7:01:28 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: M. Thatcher

Yeah, and everyone outside of D.C. is a victim. LOL...


353 posted on 12/05/2005 7:46:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: JNL; 3D-JOY; M. Thatcher

The shorthand that I used in seminary included things like theta+y = theory; theta+gy=theology.

Christ was simply chi (X), and Christian was X+ian, and etc.

Christmas was, of course, X+mas.


354 posted on 12/05/2005 8:35:08 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: John Jorsett

Its not clear as to why the "money laundering" charge was not thrown out along with the ‘conspiracy’ charge, but it is clear that this indictment is an example of the the current servitude of the court system to the ends of political power satyrs...in this instance Ronnie Earle and his Democratic groupie cadre.

This fanatical Grand Inquisitor has no case, it just seems that the judge did not have the balls to rule against the NYTimes left. After all, money laundering is the act of taking the proceeds of one or more criminal activities and making them untraceable. Typical 'money laundering' includes 'cleaning' the proceeds from drug sales, illegal gambling, bunko scams, etc. by making them financially invisible through off shore accounts, legal gambling operations, etc.. In this light, the speciousness of Earles charges should be self-evident - even to a Democratic judge:

a) During the time in question, no funds (coinage, currency, etc.) eligible (under the law) for laundering was transferred between named parties. All transactions were openly transferred by checks, excluded by law (at the time) as “funds" that are used in money laundering.

b) Proceeds (dictionary def: ''the amount of money derived from a commercial or fundraising venture; the yield") were legally solicited and openly transferred between parties prior to any alleged crime, not (as Texas law stipulates in the meaning of money laundering) derived as a yield from a "criminal" activity.

c) In any case, a predicate criminal act is required and then any resulting proceed laundering consists of two, separate, crimes and transactions. Texas and Federal courts have held they cannot occur in the same transaction. For example, when the courts have ruled on bank fraud and money laundering, seperate acts are required for both charges: the fraud that obtains the funds AND then (following it) a separate transaction that is required that to show an attempt to "launder" the money.

d) Texas election code replaced all related Penal Code in 1975, setting the civil and criminal limits to violations of election law (e.g. the election code stipulates there can be no corporate contributions to canidates beyond administrative expenses and it was defined as a third degree felony). They did not intend to "layer" that code with identical and the more severe Penal code on money laundering (1st degree felony) otherwise it would make election code limits irrelevant.

Still, the judge did not have the guts to call a fool a fool. In the end Earle will lose, but he will have done his dirty job of destroying the leadership of the house Republicans on a phony charge cooked up in his office.

Such is the state of our "justice" system..


355 posted on 12/05/2005 9:03:26 PM PST by Max_Parrish
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To: AmishDude

Could very well be, but from what I am getting from all this, not till next year. Whatever that means. They have successfully kept it OUT of the Leader position.


356 posted on 12/05/2005 9:10:49 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: John Jorsett

"(Upholding charge on money laundering)"

The charge of money laundering is still under consideration...not upheld. Those charges could be
dismissed, too.


357 posted on 12/05/2005 9:11:08 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: jveritas

I never predicted that Bush would lose. From time to time I may have said he was in real danger of losing. And you know what, brilliant mind-reader who thinks he can identify trolls? I was g-ddamned right. He was in real danger of losing. It was a close election.

Complacency is never good in politics. Do I tilt toward
making negative points about our problems? Probably. Is this bad for FReep? I don't see why. If FReep comments were primarily negative, I might change my tune. But there is a lot of poorly sourced, and equally poorly argued, optimism on FReep. I call it chest-beating.

As for my supposed 95 percent failure rate on predictions, go ahead. Find 20 predictions I made, 19 of which were wrong. I don't think you can.


358 posted on 12/05/2005 10:19:21 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Max_Parrish

Careful, Max.

Mr. "Veritas" will call you a troll for daring to be realistic about this.


359 posted on 12/05/2005 10:20:15 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: jveritas

A "defeatist" is someone who believes we WILL lose. I tend to point out how difficult winning will be, because that's what I see. But I also tend to say we must keep fighting. And I always believe it.

Grow up. It takes all kinds. You should have learned that when you were, oh, about 10 years old.


360 posted on 12/05/2005 10:23:28 PM PST by California Patriot
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