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GOP (Leadership) forms strategy to OK guest workers (Sneak In Amnesty???)
Denver Post ^ | 12/06/2005 | Anne C. Mulkern

Posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:53 AM PST by GOPGuide

In a bid to bypass critics, the Senate will pass the plan and then merge it with a House bill, observers say.

Washington - Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.

Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

After that vote, senators and House members will merge the House's border security bill with the Senate's legislation in closed-door meetings.

The House will then vote on the final package, which will include some guest-worker provision, according to a GOP aide familiar with the plan, a Colorado lawmaker and other observers.

The strategy is designed to avoid a divisive debate and contentious vote in the House.

"There is a widespread expectation that that is how it's going to play out," said Tamar Jacoby, immigration expert with The Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank. "I think it would be hard to pass in the House without the Senate going first."

The legislation that is likely to be the core of the House's immigration bill is expected to be introduced today. Sponsored by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., it tightens border security and forces employers to verify workers' citizenship. It does not address guest-worker issues.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., the biggest opponent of the president's guest-worker

proposal, said the strategy limits his ability to challenge the measure. "They're doing it this way because they know in the House they'll run into a buzz saw and maybe my name's on it," said Tancredo, who heads the 92-member Immigration Reform Caucus in the House.

Sensenbrenner's bill is expected to be voted on within the next two weeks. That allows House members to visit their districts for the Christmas break and say that they passed immigration reform, Tancredo and Jacoby said.

But the House members will be aware of the plan to build in a guest-worker program through the conference committee, said Grover Norquist, a Republican strategist who often serves as an informal liaison between Congress and the White House.

"The president's made it clear he wants both (border security and a guest-worker program)," Norquist said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; getarope; hangemhigh; immigrantlist; immigration; impeachgeorgebush; impeachthemall; kickthemoutofoffice; sensenbrenner; treason
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Well, this interesting...
1 posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:54 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide
Another kick in the teeth to legal immigrants by El Busho and the other cowardly republicans.
2 posted on 12/06/2005 6:32:56 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: GOPGuide
Senator Byrd stopped Bush's 2001 Amnesty for Illegals on a technicality.

May the ole Byrd do it again.

[What is wrong with Bush that he keeps trying to reward illegals? Stuck on Stup..........????]
3 posted on 12/06/2005 6:34:45 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: GOPGuide
The elites do not live with the results of many of the measures that pass..Bush & Family protected behind the Secret service for life, Somehow I think conservatives will create a fire storm just like we did with Miers.
Vote all the BUMS (RINOS) out.
4 posted on 12/06/2005 6:35:32 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

Correct.

It's not Bush's pets that will be raped and children eaten.

We are just an annoying inconvenience they seek to rid themselves of.


5 posted on 12/06/2005 6:58:27 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (“Don't let anyone tell you we can't control our borders,”)
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To: GOPGuide; gubamyster; HiJinx

Underhanded Crooks.

If they try this, I hope every last one of them get voted out of the offices they currently abuse.


6 posted on 12/06/2005 7:02:47 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: gubamyster
BOHICA ping

Observers say the new GOP strategy BOHICA scheme that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

7 posted on 12/06/2005 7:05:21 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Lobbyist

Ping


9 posted on 12/06/2005 7:06:24 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GOPGuide

DONT even think about it, GOP!


10 posted on 12/06/2005 7:07:31 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: GOPGuide

If this is how it goes down, The GOP will be merely a memory in a few years. For this abomination, I WILL move over to the Constitution Party.

Here is the Constitution Party's Immigration Platform:

Immigration

We affirm the integrity of the international borders of the United States and the Constitutional authority and duty of the federal government to guard and to protect those borders, including the regulation of the numbers and of the qualifications of immigrants into the country.

Each year approximately one million legal immigrants and almost as many illegal aliens enter the United States. These immigrants - including illegal aliens - have been made eligible for various kinds of public assistance, including housing, education, Social Security, and legal services. This unconstitutional drain on the federal Treasury is having a severe and adverse impact on our economy, increasing the cost of government at federal, state, and local levels, adding to the tax burden, and stressing the fabric of society. The mass importation of people with low standards of living threatens the wage structure of the American worker and the labor balance in our country.

We oppose the abuse of the H-1B and L-1 visa provisions of the immigration act which are displacing American workers with foreign.

We favor a moratorium on immigration to the United States, except in extreme hardship cases or in other individual special circumstances, until the availability of all federal subsidies and assistance be discontinued, and proper security procedures have been instituted to protect against terrorist infiltration.

We also insist that every individual group and/or private agency which requests the admission of an immigrant to the U.S., on whatever basis, be required to commit legally to provide housing and sustenance for such immigrants, bear full responsibility for the economic independence of the immigrants, and post appropriate bonds to seal such covenants.

The Constitution Party demands that the federal government restore immigration policies based on the practice that potential immigrants will be disqualified from admission to the U.S. if, on the grounds of health, criminality, morals, or financial dependence, they would impose an improper burden on the United States, any state, or any citizen of the United States.

We oppose the provision of welfare subsidies and other taxpayer-supported benefits to illegal aliens, and reject the practice of bestowing U.S. citizenship on children born to illegal alien parents while in this country.

We oppose any extension of amnesty to illegal aliens. We call for the use of U.S. troops to protect the states against invasion.

We oppose bilingual ballots. We insist that those who wish to take part in the electoral process and governance of this nation be required to read and comprehend basic English as a precondition of citizenship. We support English as the official language for all governmental business by the United States.

(From: http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php#Immigration)


11 posted on 12/06/2005 7:10:16 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: GOPGuide
How about a guest worker program for people who want to replace out spineless members of the House and Senate? I'm sure they would "serve" for less that the $100,000 + we're paying these bozo's now -- and maybe they'd help keep the illegals out...
12 posted on 12/06/2005 7:22:49 AM PST by GOPJ (Guest Worker Programs don't reflect our values. Say "NO" to second class citizens & slavery lite.)
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To: azhenfud

In all honesty, I hope the GOP loses the Senate in 2006, if possible. They are far worse in power than when they simply gum up the works as the minority.

As far as GWB is concerned, he is Clinton without the Cigar.


13 posted on 12/06/2005 7:25:46 AM PST by chris1
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To: GOPGuide
They are determined to push this through even if it's underhanded. Shame on Republicans for being as chicken shit as demoncrats on tough issues. The base doesn't agree with an Amnesty Program, and the Party will know of our displeasure in Nov. 06!
14 posted on 12/06/2005 7:29:42 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

GWB in my opinion, other than parts of the WOT, is no different than Cigar boy. He is a complete phony and RINO of the worst order. How many times do we need the shiv stuck in our backs???

I can't wait for the hypnotized drugged-up lackey bots to explain this latest disaster foisted upon us by King George.


15 posted on 12/06/2005 7:33:03 AM PST by chris1
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To: savedbygrace
If this is how it goes down, I WILL move over to the Constitution Party

I already have. They are the only conservative party out there. As far as I am concerned the Republican and Democrat partys are simply two factions of the 'professional politician party' whose sole objective is to be reelected.

16 posted on 12/06/2005 7:37:20 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: chris1

Unless lawmakers can get the sequence right, any proposal will fail.

Without having first secured the entire 2000 mile US/Mexican border, the announcement of a "guest worker" plan consideration will bring the onslaught of thousands rushing the border.

I have absolutely no confidence in the current crop of legislators nor their ability to reasonably assess methods to correct the situation along the border.


17 posted on 12/06/2005 7:38:38 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: layman

I volunteered to elect these REPUBRATS twice. They both stink to high heaven.

Sometimes, I really long for the days where my stock portfolio was surging while getting a huge laugh at Cigar Boy's expense.

Although Clinton was far more crass than GWB, can anyone really say things are heading in any different direction?


18 posted on 12/06/2005 7:40:32 AM PST by chris1
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To: layman

I may not be far behind if they can't get their shit together PDQ!


19 posted on 12/06/2005 7:40:45 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: chris1
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20 posted on 12/06/2005 7:40:45 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: azhenfud
I worry that the "guest worker" program will apply to new "workers" and will be in addition to the illegals already here.
21 posted on 12/06/2005 7:44:07 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: conservativecorner

The GOP has it together - it's just dumped on us.


22 posted on 12/06/2005 7:44:26 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Yeah, it looks as if we're screwn again.


23 posted on 12/06/2005 7:45:57 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Of course that is the plan. When pressed, Chertoff clearly stated that he would do nothing to remove those already here.

What is even more disgusting about GWB's Shamnesty plan is that he says they can only stay for 6 years. Does anyone think for a second that the next president will remove anyone when the time comes after these people buy homes with cash etc etc????

Even worse, he is pushing the heavy lifting onto someone else so that he can pander to the illegals. Shame on him.

I can't believe how stupid he thinks we are.


24 posted on 12/06/2005 7:56:34 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1

If we allow amnesty to the projected 11 million - if half drop two or three anchor babies within the six years (easily done), America potentially will have doubled that number over that six year period with efforts to deport them having then become seriously complicated.


25 posted on 12/06/2005 8:07:21 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: chris1
As far as GWB is concerned, he is Clinton without the Cigar.

LOL
26 posted on 12/06/2005 8:15:17 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Mulch

Am I wrong?????


27 posted on 12/06/2005 8:23:06 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1

No.


28 posted on 12/06/2005 8:47:01 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (“Don't let anyone tell you we can't control our borders,”)
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To: GOPGuide

Email/call your Congressman, the President, and Ken Mehlman and let them know this is unacceptable, that if this happens they will pay! No more donations or votes to ANYONE that lets them back-door this. They should lose ALL support if this happens.

chairman@gop.com


29 posted on 12/06/2005 8:47:06 AM PST by sheana
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


30 posted on 12/06/2005 8:58:20 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: savedbygrace
I agree. If this abomination passes, I'll find another answer, or I won't vote again.

If this passes, I'LL NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN!!!

I keep hearing all these pleasing noises from Republicans about protecting the Constitution, but the constitution is WE THE PEOPLE!

If the Republicans ignore that, they're no better, worse or different than the Dems. No different at all!!

You've been warned GOP!!

31 posted on 12/06/2005 9:06:28 AM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: America's Resolve

FWIW, here's the link to The Constitution Party Platform:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php


32 posted on 12/06/2005 9:13:16 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: GOPGuide
Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.

Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

Of course this will result in rewarding lawbreakers with an amnesty. More illegals to invade our borders. More illegal cheap labor. More NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and CFR.

33 posted on 12/06/2005 9:17:24 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Czar; Borax Queen; Spiff; Travis McGee; Itzlzha
You seen this yet????
In a bid to bypass critics, the Senate will pass the plan and then merge it with a House bill, observers say. Washington - Republican leaders will try to pass President Bush's controversial guest-worker proposal without putting it to a direct vote in the House.

Observers say the new GOP strategy that begins today is for the House to deal only with the more politically palatable issue of increasing border security and clamping down on employers. Republican leaders then will let the Senate pass some form of a guest-worker plan.

After that vote, senators and House members will merge the House's border security bill with the Senate's legislation in closed-door meetings.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 9:20:44 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: GOPGuide

Constitution party looking good, pinger-


35 posted on 12/06/2005 9:24:47 AM PST by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: SealSeven

After 9/11 GWB and our misleaders have no excuse for not throwing out these illegals. They have addicated their oath for their big business cronies.


37 posted on 12/06/2005 9:27:28 AM PST by chris1
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


38 posted on 12/06/2005 9:29:05 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: NRA2BFree

Wait till the bots hear that.


39 posted on 12/06/2005 9:30:20 AM PST by chris1
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
It's not Bush's pets that will be raped and children eaten.

You really should stop drinking so early in the morning.

40 posted on 12/06/2005 9:31:06 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: NRA2BFree
Every one of them should tried as traitors and shot. The sorry globalist bast*rds are destroying America. The America that many of our loved ones fought and died for. The traitors are spitting on their graves. Our kids and our grandkids will never know the America we have been blessed to live in unless we do something to stop them NOW!

See reply #40.

41 posted on 12/06/2005 9:32:38 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: blackie

You keep saying that, but our misleaders don't give a RAT's Arse (No pun intended). The writing is on the wall. GWB is a joke of the worst kind. He feeds us some crumbs than hits us below the belt over and over again.

I am sort of glad he is lame duck since it will make it harder for this shamnesty to go through. He is one to blame for this, not Cigar Boy, not Regean, not his father. After 9/11 the country would have supported locking down the borders and throwing these bums out.


42 posted on 12/06/2005 9:33:15 AM PST by chris1
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To: Dane

It was only a matter of time.


43 posted on 12/06/2005 9:33:43 AM PST by chris1
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To: Dane

So you're saying Bush's pets WILL be raped and his children eaten?


44 posted on 12/06/2005 9:36:31 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (“Don't let anyone tell you we can't control our borders,”)
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To: NRA2BFree
Although I support the WOT, I sometimes wonder if Bush's/Rice's war in Iraq is a diversion. If Bush is so concerned about US security (the premise for the Iraq war) why isn't he as resolute about protecting the US border.
45 posted on 12/06/2005 9:39:15 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: TXBSAFH

That about sums it up.


46 posted on 12/06/2005 9:39:32 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: blackie

BTTT


47 posted on 12/06/2005 9:39:44 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
So you're saying Bush's pets WILL be raped and his children eaten?

Uh, no you did gilly, per your reply #5.

48 posted on 12/06/2005 9:43:07 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: GOPGuide

Sensenbrenner is one of the best people in congress. He has done the heavy work while all the rest bitch.


50 posted on 12/06/2005 9:45:11 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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