1 posted on
12/06/2005 7:36:27 AM PST by
Valin
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To: Valin
His dark materials
C.S. Lewis' "dark materials"??
I'd say that was in "A Grief Observed" and "The Great Divorce".
(apologies if I've bungled those titles...long time since I've read them.)
2 posted on
12/06/2005 7:39:22 AM PST by
VOA
To: Valin
Let's not forget "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis.
Fabulous read!!
4 posted on
12/06/2005 7:41:57 AM PST by
MarineMomJ
(You laugh at me because I am different. I laugh at you because you are all the same.)
To: Valin
This is a putrid article
And I personally can't wait to see the movie(s)! Loved these books as a kid!
5 posted on
12/06/2005 7:43:25 AM PST by
mozrock
(They're not people, they're hippies!)
To: Valin
"Lewis has also been charged with racism as a result of his portrait of the Calormenes in The Horse and His Boy. Calormene, a desert country far to the south of Narnia, strongly suggests the Near East: its people are dark-skinned, wear turbans and carry scimitars. Their diet is heavy on oil, rice, onions and garlic. They are cruel to animals and worship a four-armed god with a vulture's head called Tash who demands human sacrifice. Like Tash, the rulers of Calormene are autocratic, corrupt, treacherous and brutal. Slavery is common, and women cannot read or write or choose whom they will marry."
Anyone watch the news lately?
7 posted on
12/06/2005 7:44:50 AM PST by
j_k_l
To: Valin
I thought the first book was pretty good but declined from there. And Lewis' "Space Trilogy", Perelandra, I could never get into despite the great title of the third Book, "That Hideous Strength."
To: Valin
Other critics, with whom I have considerable sympathy, have seen the Chronicles of Narnia as anti-feminist. Pullman, for instance, has called the books "monumentally disparaging of girls and women". In Narnia, girls almost always come second to boys. They have fewer adventures, and none, like Shasta (The Horse and His Boy) or Caspian (Prince Caspian) has a book named after her. There is no such thing as a good and strong supernatural female figure in Narnia: the principal representation of virtuous supernatural power is male, while the principal representation of evil power is the White Witch. Obviously hasn't read the books. The Star's Daughter is a good and strong supernatural female. Also, how about Aravis Tarkheena for "having adventures"? Or Polly? Or Jill in The Last Battle?
Just another reviewer blowing smoke about books without having read them.
10 posted on
12/06/2005 7:50:15 AM PST by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: Valin
When I saw the preview, I got wood.
God forbid (pardon the pun) a filmmaker were to espouse his Christian views in a film. Put some rags on their heads and change Aslan to Allahslan and you would hear no complaints.
12 posted on
12/06/2005 7:51:40 AM PST by
domenad
(In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
To: Valin
The latest children's favourite to be given the Hollywood treatment, CS Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia has been dismissed as sexist, racist, Christian propaganda.
GOOD! if msm doesn't like, i'm sure i'll love it!
15 posted on
12/06/2005 7:52:55 AM PST by
absolootezer0
("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
To: Valin
English She-Twit With A Pen Alert
16 posted on
12/06/2005 7:53:13 AM PST by
Psycho_Bunny
(Base. All Yours = Mine.)
To: Valin
Recently, the immensely gifted and equally popular British writer Philip Pullman, author of the trilogy His Dark Materials who has described himself as both an agnostic and an atheist, has condemned the Narnia books as religious propaganda.This appears later in the article.
Note: Pullman can in no way be said to be as gifted as CS Lewis. Nor can he be said to be "equally popular" in comparison to an author that has been selling books for the last 50 years.
19 posted on
12/06/2005 7:58:18 AM PST by
ikka
To: Valin
"Sexist, racist Christian propaganda"?
That review makes this a "must see" movie in my book.
20 posted on
12/06/2005 7:58:46 AM PST by
zerosix
(Native Sunflower)
To: Valin
The latest children's favourite to be given the Hollywood treatment, CS Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia has been dismissed as sexist, racist, Christian propaganda. Sounds like a must-see movie to me.
To: Valin
I just finished rereading "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe" just yesterday. All these people against it are on crak with all of the BS they are spouting. They are trying to demonize a Christian allegory because they hate God.
If they don't like it, then they should put forth valid criticism, not bogus PC garbage talking points of the left.
25 posted on
12/06/2005 8:02:26 AM PST by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
To: Valin
Others here have pointed out that "His Dark Materials" is likely to be a reference to Philip Pullman's "Golden Compass" trilogy.
But that begs the question of where Pullman got the phrase. The answer is Milton's "Paradise Lost". The "his" refers to Satan who is seen by some (including, I believe Pullman) as the hero of "Paradise Lost".
To: Valin
The Narnia Chronicles are all based on Medieval literature. You have to know the Medieval texts to understand. The author doesn't know that medieval Arabian stories (Like Shaharazad) had demons in them too, of which Tash is an example.
Even the stone table is as much rooted in norse mythology as in the Cross of Christ.
Liberals are just too stupid to deal with.
33 posted on
12/06/2005 8:20:06 AM PST by
Rippin
To: Allan
LOL! I can only imagine what "The Guardian" would say about poor Orual and Psyche.
Lewis treated the feminine very tenderly, I think.
To: Valin
This film will get the same treatment from the liberal critics as did The Passion of the Christ. And with the same result at the box office.
We had a Showtime free weekend in my area this past weekend so I watched some of the films I would never pay money to see. The garbage that is being put out by the film industry defies description. And the liberal critics love it.
49 posted on
12/06/2005 8:56:31 AM PST by
scory
To: Valin
Simplest thing to say to people who object:
If you don't like it, don't go see it and don't read the books. Just lay off the hate speech, okay?
51 posted on
12/06/2005 8:58:19 AM PST by
krazyrep
(Demolib Playbook Rule #2: If you can't beat 'em, filibuster. If that doesn't work, go to court.)
To: Valin
To me (as an Orthodox Christian) the one really problematic thing about Lewis (besides some generically Western heresies) is his Platonism. Origen went off the deep end trying to wed Christianity and Platonism, and from time to time Lewis totters on the edge of the same abyss.
That being said, I am looking forward to the screen TLTWTW, and (heh! heh!) hoping for faithful screen adaptations of the other six (I'll forgive them if they roll Prince Caspian and the Voyage of the Dawn Treader into one film, and even if they skip The Horse and His Boy, provided it's told in brief with faithful renditions of the action, at the point where the minstrel tells the story in The Silver Chair.)
I'll especially relish secular left's reaction to The Silver Chair, which at its core is a critique of secularism, and The Last Battle, which looks prophetic in view of the secularists affection for Islamism (for those who haven't read it, the Narnian Antichrist, the Antiaslan if you will, is a fake put up by Narnian secularists and the Calormenes--thinly veiled Muslims.)
64 posted on
12/06/2005 9:34:05 AM PST by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: Valin
Does it surprise anyone that the closer we get to the release date of this film, the more anti-Christian vermin come out of their holes to gripe? Looks like we're in for another Passion of the Christ type smear campaign.
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