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Chicago aldermen reach deal on smoking ban
Chicago Tribune ^ | 12/6/5 | Gary Washburn

Posted on 12/06/2005 5:14:35 PM PST by Crackingham

Aldermen reached a tentative agreement today on an ordinance that would make virtually all indoor public places smoke-free, but would give drinking establishments up to three years to comply with the law. Final language of the accord was being fashioned this afternoon as some aldermen sought a two-year deadline for full compliance. The full City Council is expected to vote on the compromise measure Wednesday.

Ald. Patrick O'Connor (40th) said aldermen wanted to resolve the controversy "in a way that was amicable, and it was getting pretty ugly around here the last couple of weeks."

"Ultimately, people knew we had to do something, and that pointed it toward making some peace," O'Connor said.

Ald. Burton Natarus (42nd), who had sought an exemption for taverns and separate bars in restaurants, expressed satisfaction with today's accord and said restaurant industry representatives were on board.

Joel Africk, chief executive officer of the American Lung Association of Metropolitan Chicago--an organization that had pushed for a smoking ban without exemptions--said he did not yet know if his group would support the compromise.

"It's tough for us to accept three years' more exposure to second-hand smoke," Africk said.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; healthnazis; nannystate; pufflist; smoking; smokingban; tobacco

1 posted on 12/06/2005 5:14:36 PM PST by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
Smith wanted to include all taverns and bars in the ban. He had the backing of the Lung Association, the American Cancer Society and Chefs and Owners United for Good Health (COUGH), a coalition of more than 110 dining establishments.

Wonderful.  All 110 dining establishments, along with any others, can ban smoking all by themselves, without help from the government.

2 posted on 12/06/2005 5:21:40 PM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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To: Crackingham

to paraphrase Eddie Izzard, "They've banned smoking in bars, and soon there will be no drinking and no talking"...


3 posted on 12/06/2005 5:35:24 PM PST by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Namyak

Newspeak at its finest!

You see, in the leftist lexicon "compromise" is doing exactly what they desire. Pretty sad.


4 posted on 12/06/2005 5:49:40 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Crackingham

What is the true purpose behind these widespread smoking bans? Are that many people really against smoking? I personally think it is just another scheme to aclimate us to accepting government control over even the smallest personal aspects of our lives.


5 posted on 12/06/2005 8:31:41 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: SheLion

ping


6 posted on 12/06/2005 8:33:21 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Crackingham

I see a lot of bars going out of business in Chicago!


7 posted on 12/06/2005 10:54:51 PM PST by blondee123 (Close our borders to illegals! Don't try to appease us!)
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To: Calpernia; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; Cantiloper; ...
Thanks for the ping!
8 posted on 12/07/2005 4:34:27 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Calpernia

Deal reached on smoking ban

Chicago restaurants and other indoor places would go cold-turkey, while taverns and walled-off bars attached to restaurants would get two or three years to kick the smoking habit under a compromise hammered out today with a nudge from Mayor Daley

9 posted on 12/07/2005 4:36:32 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

So-three years' delay of what they demanded in the first place is -Compromise. I guess we'd better revise all our dictionaries.


10 posted on 12/07/2005 4:47:40 AM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; SheLion; Gabz
I personally think it is just another scheme to aclimate us to accepting government control over even the smallest personal aspects of our lives.

The faux "chew and screw" franchises love this stuff as it drives the Mom and Pop neighborhood bars out of business.

It's also a form of back door prohibition which is why MADD is aboard with it.

11 posted on 12/07/2005 4:47:52 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: The Foolkiller; metesky

It's just terribly depressing. Cigarettes are the only legal commodity that I know of, where we can buy but made to feel like criminals because we use it. :(


12 posted on 12/07/2005 4:49:44 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion; The Foolkiller

If you feel like a criminal, you're doing it wrong, SL. Be liberated: Feel like an outlaw.


13 posted on 12/07/2005 5:23:20 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

What you said.

You've nailed it............the big boys can handle the hit on the bottom line, the little places can't.

If going smoke-free is so good for business, why don't they just do it? Why do they insist on forcing it upon EVERYONE else?


14 posted on 12/07/2005 5:37:09 AM PST by Gabz
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Read just how much smokers contribute to the economy in Illinois and we are still given shoddy treatment.  They don't want us but they sure want our tax dollars!

Read how much smokers are contributing to their state economy.  And some have the nerve to say smokers are the reason for higher health costs.  Read this and know the truth.

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15 posted on 12/07/2005 6:02:50 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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16 posted on 12/07/2005 6:03:29 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: RWR8189

"Wonderful. All 110 dining establishments, along with any others, can ban smoking all by themselves, without help from the government."

They know that it would kill their business. They need to have their preferences dictated by government force to ensure the market demands are not met. You know, the ole "level the playing field" argument.


17 posted on 12/07/2005 10:57:39 AM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: metesky

If you feel like a criminal, you're doing it wrong, SL. Be liberated: Feel like an outlaw.




YEAH!! YEAH!! THAT'S THE ATTITUDE I WANT!! I remember about 3 years ago-I was finishing a smoke before I went into a Frank's Nursery (Dear God, I miss that chain!)to look for some flowers to put in my yard. A rabid-smoker-hater (notice I've went beyond calling them anti-smokers, as it's went way beyond that now)said to me, with a big grin on his face, "What are you going to do when they make that an illegal substance?" My response: "Do? I'll do what I've always done my entire life-be an outlaw. Now f&*k off." The grin was swept from his face, and he rushed off. :-D


18 posted on 12/07/2005 1:57:16 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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