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Jihadism and the Qur’an
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20455 ^ | Robert Spencer

Posted on 12/07/2005 12:34:41 AM PST by mal

Oriana Fallaci stated that the Qur’an was the Mein Kampf of the Jihadi movement. She pointed put out that Islam’s holy book demands the annihilation or subjugation of the other, and that it wants to substitute totalitarianism for democracy.

Her statement, as you may imagine, has caused considerable controversy. A few of the statements I have seen:

"Calling the Koran Mein Kampf is muddle headed and hysterical.....deserves a rebuttal."

"There are moderate Moslems.....I lived among them in Turkey while my Bulgarian relatives went to concentration camps..."

"Tarring the whole religion is counterproductive.....Arab Moslems are terrorists in training but many non Arab Moslems are not jihadists....."

"If there are no moderate muslims, as Fallaci says, then we are doomed.....Is it not better to call them Islamofascists or Jihadists?"

"The Koran is 'Mein Kampf'.....oh come on...."

"In order to be a moderate Moslem does one have to renounce the Koran? I think that as usual, Oriana goes too far."

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1 posted on 12/07/2005 12:34:41 AM PST by mal
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To: mal

Good article.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 12:46:55 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: mal

All one has to do is read it, and behold! The truth is plain to see.

First, you need to put it in the order it was recited. That's why you need to read the life of Muhammad.(hadith)

It's Mein Kampf qualities become clear, and is what Jihadists follow.

As usual, Spencer puts things in perspective.


3 posted on 12/07/2005 12:50:44 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Forte Runningrock

I should add, that the statement "The Koran is like Mein Kampf" is wrong.

Mein Kampf is like the Koran. Hitler saw Muhammads "redeaming qualities" and copied them.


4 posted on 12/07/2005 12:53:19 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: mal; All
Crosslinked:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

5 posted on 12/07/2005 12:59:31 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: mal

i love robert spencer. he speaks the truth. westerners have ignored the history of islam and are paying for it now.


6 posted on 12/07/2005 1:00:40 AM PST by Nipplemancer (Abolish the DEA !)
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To: Nipplemancer
Here's another oline book you may be interested in:

Inside the mind of the Muslim

7 posted on 12/07/2005 1:06:35 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: mal
Nor are these jihadists misrepresenting, twisting, or hijacking what the Qur'an says. Indeed, they are fiercely literalistic, taking the book's many martial verses at face value. There are over a hundred verses in the Qur’an that exhort believers to wage jihad against unbelievers. “O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be firm against them.

It would be very wise for everyone to remember this and point it out to those who seem to think there is such a thing as a moderate muslim. Moderate Muslims exist only to the extent there are muslims who have strayed from their "religion".

Its time to stop considering it a religion. Its time to start promoting the idea that islam must be banned as being incompatible with human life on earth.

Its time to stop have all sorts of mystical ways of spelling the word koran, its time to stop capitalizing the word as if it was worthy of respect.

8 posted on 12/07/2005 1:07:01 AM PST by adamsjas
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To: ariamne; Dark Skies; Cornpone; expatguy; Former Dodger; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; USF

P.R.O.P. Ping...

Robert Spencer in Frontpage talking about moo-Ham-Mad and the "mein qur'an" terrorist primer.

An unreformable DeathCult, IMHO.

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced, ahmed, and 'alla' your 72 virgins look like the North end of Helen Thomas' Southbound camel...after a bad plate of falafel and tahini got the worst of it."


9 posted on 12/07/2005 1:11:06 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: mal
"She pointed put out that Islam’s holy book demands the annihilation or subjugation of the other"

Islam celebrates the military conquest of the Arabian peninsula.

I've yet to see any scholarly refutation of that central fact.

10 posted on 12/07/2005 1:11:35 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Forte Runningrock
One thing to remember is that the majority of Muslims in the world today are illiterate. They have never read the Koran, let alone the hadath. So what they know of their religion depends on what the local mullahs choose to tell them. Many mullahs focus on Allah as merciful, and the parts of the Koran dealing with living a moral and compassionate life. That's why so many will insist that their religion does not support terrorism, is peaceful, etc. and really mean it, despite the clear writings of Mohamed to the contrary.
11 posted on 12/07/2005 1:26:33 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin
So what they know of their religion depends on what the local mullahs choose to tell them.

And since this so-called religion has no structure, no hierarchy, no central authority, you ARE a mullah if you call your self one. Therefore, those least able to make a living in any real way, become mullahs.

12 posted on 12/07/2005 1:46:37 AM PST by adamsjas
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Well, I guess if you let a pig into your living room you shouldn't be shocked to find shiite all over the floor.

We let them in, it's time to show them the door. I read today that it's estimated 80% of all the mosques in the US are controlled by the Saudi wahabbi. Scary.


13 posted on 12/07/2005 3:22:19 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Not just the koran, but apparently the wonderful examples set by Mr mohamMAD himself, the man muslims are supposed to emulate:

Jihad:

...the importance, reward and requirement for the Muslims to perform Jihaad Fi Sabeel Lillah i.e. physical struggle:

...the saying and actions of Muhammad (Salalahu Alaihi Wasallam) show that Jihaad definitely is to start (offensive) fighting the kuffar to make the Words of Allah the highest and to propagate (da’wa) the call of Islam. Muhammad (Salalahu Alaihi Wasallam) said:

"I have been ordered to fight the people until they bear witness that, ‘there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger’ and they establish the prayer and the zakat. And if they do this, then from me is protected their blood and their wealth except by the right granted by Allah."

As for his (Salalahu Alaihi Wasallam) actions, they are full of actions that show Jihaad is to start the fighting. So when he went out to Badr to take the caravan belonging to the Quraysh, this was going out to fight, this is offensive – as Muhammad (Salalahu Alaihi Wasallam) initiated the action before the Quraysh. Likewise, when Muhammad (Salalahu Alaihi Wasallam) invaded Hawazin in the battle of Hunayn, when he (Salalahu Alaihi Wasallam) seiged Ta’if and the battle of Mutah to fight the Romans and the Battle of Tabuk – all of these are evidences to show that Jihaad is to start fighting kuffar (offensive). This should clarify the erroneous view that in origin Jihaad is defensive...


14 posted on 12/07/2005 3:49:29 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: USF
"I have been ordered to fight the people until they bear witness that, ‘there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger’

How's this, raghead? "there is no god called Allah and Muhammad is a pedophile". Now, ya wanna fight? Because just between you and me, I got no problem with that.

15 posted on 12/07/2005 5:45:08 AM PST by Kenton (To my friends who celebrate Jesus' birth, Merry Christmas. To the rest of you, have a nice day off.)
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