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To: GourmetDan
More likely that the conception of Christ took place at the feast of Hanukkah, rather than on Dec 25 specifically. Hanukkah was the feast of the re-dedication of the temple after it had been defiled by Antiochus Epiphanes. This feast was a prophetic type of the re-dedication of the human body as a temple of the Holy Spirit through the conception of Jesus Christ after it had been defiled through sin by Adam.

When did Lucifer rebel... he already had when 'the' Adam was formed in a flesh vessel and put in the Garden of God. Moses does not describe Lucifer's rebellion in Genesis, but it had already taken place because of what Moses penned in Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; *the tree of life (other places say Christ is the tree of life) also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.* (Every thing up to this point is described to be 'good' that the LORD created, and nothing created was called 'evil', so this 'evil' tree had to have already happened and allowed to be in the garden for the purpose to teach even down to us there is 'good' and 'evil' through out this flesh age... Note Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

The 'conception' was predestined long before the feast of Hanukkah was ever considered or Epiphanies ever drew a breath. The 'sun' that give us light makes a particular showing that marks the changes of seasons. And while some 'worship' the sun as it marks those changes, God is the one who hung it and set it on its course before even one flesh being walked this earth. It should be no mystery that on the shortest day of 'sunlight' would be the day predestined for the 'Son' to be placed into the womb of Mary as 'God with us'.

No I do not worship the 'sun', but view it symbolically as what was given to flesh beings to live, because without it life would not live in flesh. And Christ the 'Son' is indeed the 'light' that in Him gives life eternal. I do not put much weight on what flesh man establishes if it was not first established by the Creator.

400 posted on 11/28/2010 2:09:39 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
"The 'conception' was predestined long before the feast of Hanukkah was ever considered or Epiphanies ever drew a breath."

For that matter, the 'conception' was predestined long before any act of creation was uttered; so the point is meaningless as an argument for ignoring the Jewish feasts in favor of interpretations of 'nature'.

"No I do not worship the 'sun', but view it symbolically as what was given to flesh beings to live, because without it life would not live in flesh."

Of course nature conforms to the image of Christ when viewed properly. However, it is better to view the Jewish feasts symbolically because they all point to Christ, were fulfilled by him in some way and provide a deeper understanding of His nature and work than using 'nature' as your source. This is why I said, "The Church has lost it's way by ignoring the Jewish feast days and their prophetic witness to the person of Jesus Christ."

401 posted on 11/28/2010 11:02:14 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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