[js1138]

I find it amusing that you can't pin down creationists or semi-creationists on the simple question of their natural inclination towards selfish or altruistic behavior.

The notion that everything will fly apart without an omniscient authority handing out rewards and punishments just has to be projection.

[Senator Bedfellow]

Indeed, what does "virtue" or "morality" mean if the behavior is compelled by a whip in one hand, and a carrot in the other? Can we not make any behavior moral or virtuous merely by offering a reward for some aritrary behaviors and a punishment for others?

[JohnnyM]

man's natural inclination is towards evil, that goes for evo's or creationists.

The interesting question comes about in how we define morality and evil? What standard is used?

My standard is God. What is the standard for one who does not believe in God?

JM