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Experts dispute Williams claim of founding Crips
Reuters ^ | Mon Dec 12, 2005 | Dan Whitcomb

Posted on 12/12/2005 8:17:44 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/12/2005 8:17:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Too bad, now the Left won't care if he dies, unless there's a last-minute revelation of him murdering some nuns or something.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 8:23:25 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic who never, ever says "Happy Holidays")
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"Actually, everybody but Tookie gives Raymond Washington credit for starting (the Crips)," said Malcolm Klein, an emeritus professor of sociology at the University of Southern California who has studied gangs since 1962.

Your tax dollars at work.

3 posted on 12/12/2005 8:24:25 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: nickcarraway

I thought he was in a stable condition, at room temperature, by now...


4 posted on 12/12/2005 8:26:52 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: nickcarraway

The Potassium Chloride doesn't care whether or not he did.


5 posted on 12/12/2005 8:27:16 PM PST by digger48
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Which came first - the chicken or the fried egg?


6 posted on 12/12/2005 8:27:46 PM PST by Libloather (God bless America - and the blue states, too...)
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To: fat city

Actually, SC is a "private" school.....but I agree this Klein character likely is supported by govt grants to study this "worthwhile" phenomena.


7 posted on 12/12/2005 8:27:49 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: fat city

Come on. Somebody has keep track of these scum. Tookie's fan club is over-stating his role to attract attention. The story here is that Took is just a two-bit thug, and an over-rated one at that.


9 posted on 12/12/2005 8:29:16 PM PST by Callahan
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Why is the media trying desperately to elevate this bum?


10 posted on 12/12/2005 8:29:27 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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I thought he was in a stable condition, at room temperature, by now...

just his followers brains, Tookies got a couple more hours to sob like the coward he is

11 posted on 12/12/2005 8:30:07 PM PST by digger48
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He founded the Crips, before he didn't found them.


12 posted on 12/12/2005 8:30:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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then renounced a criminal life

What a joke!

Tookie committed all kinds of crime in the Big House including sexual assaults on other inmates but you don't hear about that in the wacko leftist liberal rags

13 posted on 12/12/2005 8:32:28 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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Why is the media trying desperately to elevate this bum?

Most all the newsrooms are run by like-minded Leftists.

14 posted on 12/12/2005 8:32:28 PM PST by digger48
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He founded the Crips, before he didn't found them.

LOL, too funny

15 posted on 12/12/2005 8:33:10 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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he's a democrat?


16 posted on 12/12/2005 8:33:39 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: nickcarraway

Raymond Washington was killed by a rival gang member....Hmmm I wonder if he was shot in the back at point blank range with a shotgun?


17 posted on 12/12/2005 8:33:58 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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"Gangs kill communities just as surely as they kill people."

So does immigration.....


18 posted on 12/12/2005 8:34:15 PM PST by AZRepublican
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Actually, it's little known fact that Vietnam War Hero John Kerry and Internet inventor Al Gore teamed up to found the Crips in 1962. Back then, they went by their full name, the Crippled Prep School Albino Negroes. You betta recognize!


19 posted on 12/12/2005 8:34:35 PM PST by Callahan
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I was working for the Youth Authority and can remember the first time I heard the word crips in late 72. In 73/74, we had Jamal Barnes on our housing unit. His biceps were 23 inches and we had to cut his shirts so he could put them on.

Barnes was a real thug and clearly the leader of the group. He called everyone cuz.

After he left I heard he was one of the original OGs in the crips.

Barnes is on the radio last week telling the story that he was already there when tookie drive up.

BTW Barnes appeared on the gong show flexing his muscles to music. Yes, he was..............

We used to tell the wards that crip meant cowards run in packs. The biggest gang where I worked was the staff.

20 posted on 12/12/2005 8:35:15 PM PST by bigsigh
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