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737 as popular as ever (Spirit workers to celebrate 5,000th fuselage)
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Posted on Sun, Dec. 11, 2005 | Reach Molly McMillin

Posted on 12/12/2005 9:57:19 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

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1 posted on 12/12/2005 9:57:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

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2 posted on 12/12/2005 9:58:15 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The 737 is the B-52 of commercial aviation. They just keep on ticking.


3 posted on 12/12/2005 10:01:13 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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Of course, what really kept the 737 program going was Boeing's decision in the early 1990's to build the Next Generation 737 with its longer range. Indeed, the 737-700 and 737-800 fitted with Aviation Partners winglets can easily fly between Los Angeles and Boston year-round non-stop on a full passenger/cargo load, something the A320 can't claim.

That's why if JetBlue had bought the 737-800 in the first place they wouldn't passenger load limits on transcon flights between the US West Coast and New York-JFK.

4 posted on 12/12/2005 10:07:19 PM PST by RayChuang88
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Of course, what really kept the 737 program going was Boeing's decision in the early 1990's to build the Next Generation 737 with its longer range.

If Boeing had modernized the 727 by replacing the 3-man cockpit with the 757 2-man cockpit and changing it to a twin engine configuration, it's quite possible the 727 would have continued being the most popular jet airliner. It was only after the the 727 was discontinued that the 737 orders really started increasing.

The Next Generation 737 is almost a new aircraft compared to older 737 models. It has two totally new wings and new avionics. It has the same dimensions as the classic 737's so it fits at gates designed for older 737's and can use the same ground equipment, but in many ways it is mostly a new plane.

5 posted on 12/12/2005 10:21:46 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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As a frequent flyer, I generally feel safe in 737s, especially compared to the A319 and A320, which just don't seem solid to me, or MD-80s, which are outright flexible (just sit with your shoulder against the wall near an emergency exit and you'll see).

But the single scariest airplane I've been on was an ancient 737 flown by Aloha Air, just last year. This was an original-issue model with the engines tucked under the wings without pylons. It was of the same vintage as the one that went "convertible" off Hawaii many years ago due to age, salt-air corrosion and the stress of countless island-hopping decompressions. This one had riveted reinforcement plates running down the full length of the fuselage to avoid the same fate. Not confidence-inspiring. Maybe Air Sibera runs older, more run-down planes than that one. But it got us from island to island in one piece. Keeps on ticking, indeed.


6 posted on 12/12/2005 10:28:17 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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Alas, AirBus' offers of free money were too sweet for Soros & partners to turn down. That on top of not made in America had to be an easy choice for them.
7 posted on 12/12/2005 10:29:51 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: Paleo Conservative
My airline had the last 737-100 in commercial service in America. It was ancient when we got it, we leased it out, got it back again. I got bumped many times because of mechanicals! I hope Boeing preserves the first one off the line.


8 posted on 12/12/2005 10:30:40 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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9 posted on 12/12/2005 10:31:45 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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I hope Boeing preserves the first one off the line.

Wasn't the first one off the line the prototype? I thought NASA had already sent it to the Smithsonian.

10 posted on 12/12/2005 10:33:20 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Try flying on an Ilyushin 64M, real comfortable....


11 posted on 12/12/2005 10:34:31 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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The first 707 is at the new Smithsonian, but it had so many modifications that it don't look much like a 707 anymore.


12 posted on 12/12/2005 10:35:25 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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Fat Boy, the Secret to Southwest Airlines success.
13 posted on 12/12/2005 10:37:50 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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Actually, the A320's that are out now with the high bypass engines can do coast to coast without any problems. Our first batch of A320's (from Braniff II) had problems doing BWI-PHX on a hot summer day. But our newer 320's and 319's easily did BOS-SFO or LAX-JFK. We have a 319 that does Phoenix to San Jose Costa Rica without any problems, and we also go to Cancun from Phoenix without much problems (even less now that we have ETOPS).


14 posted on 12/12/2005 10:38:29 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Nice bird...just avoid that hard-over rudder...could ruin your day!


15 posted on 12/12/2005 10:38:48 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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You will get a kick out of this, from the December issue of Air Transport World "Through the Years"

30 years ago: ALPA and United's pilots may have won all the battles but lost the war on the 737 three-man crew issue. UAL sold two more 737s in November and has another tabled for 1976. It also plans to sell 10 others.


16 posted on 12/12/2005 10:40:52 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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The 737 is probably the world's most overpowered airliner, and the Southwest pilots seem to delight in this fact during takeoff. If the country ever needs another medium bomber or cruise missile platform, the 737 would be just the ticket.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 10:42:57 PM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he worked the bolt.)
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Compared to the 787? The engines on those machines are massive!
18 posted on 12/12/2005 10:46:05 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
The first 707 is at the new Smithsonian, but it had so many modifications that it don't look much like a 707 anymore.

The Dash-80 really wasn't a prototype. It was a technology demonstrator. The fuselage was derived from the Boeing 367 Stratocruiser. I'm not quite sure if the wings were adapted from the B-47. The fuselage width of the KC-135 wasn't settled till the first order for them came from the USAF. Boeing later was forced to make the commercial 707 fuselage four inches wider after Pan Am ordered 25 DC-8's be delivered after the first 20 707's.

19 posted on 12/12/2005 10:47:52 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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Of course I should add that the 787 hasn't been built yet. But still, it will have some large engines!


20 posted on 12/12/2005 10:48:22 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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