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Terminating Tookie (Stanley "Tookie" Williams, Death penalty)
CPF ^ | 12/14/2005 | William John Hagan

Posted on 12/14/2005 7:34:58 AM PST by WJHII

Terminating Tookie

By William John Hagan

Wednesday, December 14, 2005

The recent execution of Stanley "Tookie" Williams in California serves as a perfect case study for when the death penalty is acceptable, even under the stringent standards of the Catholic Church. In almost no circumstance will the Vatican find the death penalty acceptable, however, there is an exception: The circumstances of the life and crimes of Stanley Williams is one of them.

The Church’s current teachings on the Death Penalty and its use stem from Pope John Paul II’s 1995 encyclical "Evangelium Vitae". In this papal letter addressed to the church’s hierarchy, Pope Paul wrote that a government may only execute an individual "in cases of absolute necessity, in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society. Today, however, as a result of steady improvement in the organization of the penal system, such cases are very rare, if not practically nonexistent." Tookie Williams however, despite the hollow propaganda of the left, is just such a case. Violent gang member, Williams, posed a continuing danger to society both in and out of the California correctional system. This was an execution even the Pope could endorse.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hagan; stanleywilliams; tookie; williams

1 posted on 12/14/2005 7:34:59 AM PST by WJHII
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To: WJHII

The Tookie story is like so yesterday


2 posted on 12/14/2005 7:36:12 AM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: WJHII

Scwarznegger is the Governor of CA now, but he is also the ex Terminator!


3 posted on 12/14/2005 7:37:05 AM PST by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation

ping


4 posted on 12/14/2005 7:37:09 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: al baby

It should have been so 20 years ago.


5 posted on 12/14/2005 7:37:45 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: WJHII

Waiting for the riots.......


6 posted on 12/14/2005 7:39:26 AM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dynachrome
Waiting for the riots.......
It's too cold outside.

-Eric

7 posted on 12/14/2005 7:43:15 AM PST by E Rocc (Bah Humbug.)
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To: al baby

Tookie who?


8 posted on 12/14/2005 7:44:32 AM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: DogBarkTree

According to actor Mike Farrell: Mr. Stanley Williams.


9 posted on 12/14/2005 7:47:10 AM PST by Mariposaman
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To: WJHII

As 'Bones' McCoy put so well...

He's dead Jim.....


10 posted on 12/14/2005 7:47:19 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: E Rocc

You mean the MSM-inspired riots never happened? Hmmm.....suppose the MSM covered a vigil...and nobody watched it?


11 posted on 12/14/2005 7:48:58 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX-"Tom DeLay Country")
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To: WJHII
The Pope and the Church have caved into the Left by going against the Bible on the death penalty. No wonder the Church is dying in Europe.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

12 posted on 12/14/2005 8:05:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: WJHII
Pope Paul wrote that a government may only execute an individual "in cases of absolute necessity, in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society. Today, however, as a result of steady improvement in the organization of the penal system, such cases are very rare, if not practically nonexistent." Tookie Williams however, despite the hollow propaganda of the left, is just such a case. Violent gang member, Williams, posed a continuing danger to society both in and out of the California correctional system.

Hagan fails to show that someone in solitary confinement can be a continuing danger to society. For that reason, he fails to show that the Catholic Church could or would approve of TW's execution.

-A8

13 posted on 12/14/2005 8:14:19 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: WJHII

Man, sounds like even the principled death penalty opponents forsook the Took. Aside from Mike Farrell and a few inconsequential loons, that guy had NO friends!


14 posted on 12/14/2005 8:38:47 AM PST by IronJack
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To: adiaireton8

Tookie apparently had influence in the outside world, where the Crips would still do his bidding. As noted in the article, the families of the victims are all but in hiding because of it.


15 posted on 12/14/2005 8:38:56 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: Paradox
I understand that, and I agree. But that does not show that Hagan's argument (that the Catholic Church would have approved of TW's execution) is sound.

-A8

16 posted on 12/14/2005 8:41:23 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8

Agree, I suspect the Church would have been against it.


17 posted on 12/14/2005 8:51:37 AM PST by Paradox (Time to sharpen ole Occam's Razor.)
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To: goldstategop

To save crime victims, criminals must know that they face the death penalty if they kill the witness.


18 posted on 12/18/2005 7:15:02 AM PST by alrea (To save crime victims, criminals must know that they face the death penalty if they kill the witness)
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To: WJHII

Now the anti-capital punishment crowd is saying a Texas inmate has suddenly become mentally retarded, and cannot be executed under federal law. Marvin Lee Williams is the new poster boy.


19 posted on 12/18/2005 7:18:55 AM PST by Reform4Bush
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