[wyattearp]

In boot camp nowadays, if you don't want to be messed with by the DI you just hold up your "stress card". "Sorry sir, but I'm just too stressed to comply with your orders right now".

Boot camp isn't the way that it used to be.

[gondramB]

There are lots of things that are legal and ethical if the parties consent that would be illegal and no-ethical if done non-consenually.... Like boxing, sex and NFL training camp.

[ghost of nixon]

This is in the LA Times? I can just imagine all the liberals out there going nuts over this.

[grobdriver]

Forget boot camp.
Try SERE school.

[airborne]

Some of the training I had in Recondo School seemed like torture, but I knew what real torture was.

Sleep deprivation isn't torture. But it is effective.

[InsureAmerica]

I guarantee you, from a psychological perspective, my ex-wife has tortured me more than 1/2 the thugs we now detain around the world.....

[RTINSC]

Years ago, I went through Navy boot camp at Great lakes. In order to stay in the Navy you had to be able to swim a certain distance. One day, thw swim test occurred. You climbed a ladder to a 20 ' platform, put your back to this enormous pool, and you were pushed off. You had to swim the perimeter without drowning. Along the side of the pool were "life guards" with long poles. If you floundered or tried to leave the pool, you got pushed down with the pole and got some encouraging words. ("Swim if you want to live, Sailor"). If you "drowned", you had to return for swim lessons. Swim lessons involved doing again what I just described until you made it around the pool.

[JasonC]

While this is true, there is a large difference between being hazed by superiors you have volunteered to obey, and being hazed by enemies who despise you. Believe me, when there is real hostility toward them on the part of a DI, it is more enough to drive a man well beyond distraction, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. The best DIs know how to give the little cues that say it is all for your own good, and men love them for it.

[dakine]

Air Force torture = cable out...

[martin_fierro]

[knews_hound]

Blog Fodder....

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[OldPossum]

I'll be d@amned. I was tortured by the U.S. Government and didn't know it.

[pabianice]

Just brings me back to the Tailhook uproar. Female pilots, who demanded that be treated as equals of men, broke into tears and went running to Congress when some mean male pilots made lewd remarks and a few actually touched them at the convention. The Navy is still saddled with PC bullshit because of that.

[Born Conservative]

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