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Hate torture? Consider boot camp
Jewish World Review ^ | 12-15-05 | Max Boot:

Posted on 12/15/2005 5:09:04 AM PST by SJackson

Hold the presses. I've discovered that the use of torture by the U.S. government is far more pervasive than previously believed. There are major facilities all over the country where thousands of men and women who have not committed any crime are held for prolonged periods while subjected to physical and psychological coercion that violates every tenet of the Geneva Convention.

They are routinely made to stand for long periods in uncomfortable positions. They are made to walk for hours while wearing heavy loads on their backs. They are bullied by martinets who get in their faces and yell insults at them. They are hit and often knocked down with clubs known as pugil sticks. They are denied sleep for more than a day at a time. They are forced to inhale tear gas. They are prevented from seeing friends or family. Some are traumatized by this treatment. Others are injured. A few even die.

Should Amnesty International or the International Committee of the Red Cross want to investigate these human-rights abuses, they could visit Parris Island, S.C., Camp Pendleton, Calif., Ft. Benning, Ga., Ft. Jackson, S.C., and other bases where the Army and Marines train recruits. It's worth keeping in mind how roughly the U.S. government treats its own defenders before we get too worked up over the treatment of captured terrorists.

With all the uproar over torture, you would think we handled prisoners the way Saddam Hussein did. The former dictator's trial has featured copious testimony on how his goons raped, mutilated, beat or murdered those who fell under suspicion of disloyalty. This type of treatment — fingernails pulled, electric shocks applied, sharp objects put where they don't belong — is what the word "torture" commonly connotes. That's not what American operatives are up to.

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1 posted on 12/15/2005 5:09:04 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

LOL! But the graduates of these detention centers form the best most efficient fighting force in the history of war.

Contrast this with the Dutch "army" which would not enter Afghanistan without gurantees of protection by teh US ARMY!


2 posted on 12/15/2005 5:13:21 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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To: SJackson

And boot camp is a walk in the park compared to infantry OCS, aka Benning School for Boys. The whole idea is mental and physical toughness, to survive in combat, to defend the U.S.A. Novel concept, huh?


3 posted on 12/15/2005 5:33:08 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: SJackson
Does this mean that Amnesty International will help me sue for the "trauma" I suffered going through basic training, PLDC and my officer training?

...doubtful.

Those experiences made me into who I am today.

4 posted on 12/15/2005 5:37:41 AM PST by AlaninSA (It's ONE NATION UNDER GOD...brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: SJackson

I have repeatedly suggested that terrorist prisoners be put through the physical regimen of SEAL training. Little or no sleep, cold and wet for extended periods of time, extreme physical exertion, teamwork and individual tasks to be correctly performed or done again, and constant verbal harassment. Hey, if it's good enough for our best, it should be fine for them!


5 posted on 12/15/2005 5:57:41 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: pleikumud

Home of the Infantry, Follw Me! Hooah!


6 posted on 12/15/2005 6:06:21 AM PST by BattleBoar
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To: pleikumud
And boot camp is a walk in the park compared to infantry OCS, aka Benning School for Boys.

I was offered a slot at OCS in '69.I declined the invitation because I knew 1)that it was highly unlikely that I'd be able to hack it and 2)that if I did make it,the life expectancy of a second lieutenant in RVN was about two days.

7 posted on 12/15/2005 6:07:59 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Gay State Conservative

It was beyond description. One guy broke down in the first 30 minutes, sobbing. And some of my classmates were killed in Vietnam, of course. People like Murtha, Kerry, Kennedy, Reid, Pelosi, Leahy, Biden, Clintons - the whole Demorat crowd - turn my stomach. They are allies of the terrorists, and the enemies of our troops.


8 posted on 12/15/2005 6:25:37 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

Amen


9 posted on 12/15/2005 6:28:36 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie
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To: JimRed
Little or no sleep, cold and wet for extended periods of time, extreme physical exertion, teamwork and individual tasks to be correctly performed or done again, and constant verbal harassment.

Were you were okay with the way the Japanese treated our POWs in WW2?

Detainees in our custody should be treated humanely.

10 posted on 12/15/2005 10:43:59 AM PST by conserv13
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Were you were okay with the way the Japanese treated our POWs in WW2?

Detainees in our custody should be treated humanely.

Beatings, murders and starvation hardly equate to SEAL training.

11 posted on 12/15/2005 1:19:21 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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