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Is America ready to elect a Mormon as its President?
Times UK ^ | Dec. 16, 2005 | Tim Reid

Posted on 12/17/2005 8:39:05 AM PST by Mr. Blonde

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To: Mr. Blonde
How much different is Mormonism from mainstream Christianity? Haven't they moved away from the questionable parts of their doctrine?

In terms of the importance placed on family and acceptance of personal responsibility, they out-Christian the Evangelicals.

61 posted on 12/17/2005 9:03:19 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I have never been able to come up with an objective definition of "cult" other than a religion that a given person doesn't like.

Here is an excellent cult checklist.

62 posted on 12/17/2005 9:04:35 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Mr. Blonde
How much different is Mormonism from mainstream Christianity?

Very. Polytheistic, different view of who Christ is, 3 levels of heaven, marriage for eternity.

Haven't they moved away from the questionable parts of their doctrine?

No.

But it wouldn't affect my vote. I wouldn't vote for Romney because he is liberal - the same reason I wouldn't vote for Harry Reid.

63 posted on 12/17/2005 9:04:40 AM PST by PAR35
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To: WhiteGuy; GOP_Party_Animal
I'd first like to know mr ronmey's position on the wearing of magical underpants.

Had a cousin who dated a Mormon girl until it got to the magical underpants part. One of those stories families cherish around beers at the holidays.

64 posted on 12/17/2005 9:05:16 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: neodad

Just picture a full grown RINO stomping around inside the Mormon Temple and then the White House. Not a pretty sight.


65 posted on 12/17/2005 9:05:27 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A cult tends to isolate its members from the rest of the world.


66 posted on 12/17/2005 9:07:14 AM PST by durasell
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To: contemplator
The author is painting all Christians to be inflexible and incapable of separating their religious views from their political ones.

I can't. I refer to the process as having principles.

67 posted on 12/17/2005 9:07:54 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: contemplator
The problem I'm guessing he was referring to would be the one of re-inforcing international perception that the U.S. is a pawn of Israel, not one of predjudice towards jews.

Anyone with the screen name "Goldwater" who says being a president who is Jewish would cause problems needs to be taken to the GOP woodshed (after Buchanan et al.) or checked out for troll credentials.

68 posted on 12/17/2005 9:08:17 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: JCEccles
My lingering doubts about him trace to his support of gays serving as scoutmasters.

I could not vote for someone who ever held that position.. Even it it were just for five minutes. It's an indication that he could drift into another radically Leftist position again in the future.

69 posted on 12/17/2005 9:08:39 AM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: peyton randolph

Heck, that cult checklist would cover not only Mormonism, but pretty much all of evangelical Christianity, too.


70 posted on 12/17/2005 9:08:45 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: ConservativeMind
it seems to me that Jesus Christ had good things to say about some Samaritans and critical things about other people who self-rightouesly called him "Lord, Lord."

Something about judging the heart, and not by appearances . . .

We all, and especially some Evangelicals, may be surprised about how everything finally shakes out.

71 posted on 12/17/2005 9:09:51 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: DoughtyOne
Folgers?! AIEEEEEEE!! A pox upon thy cream and sugar!

;o)

72 posted on 12/17/2005 9:10:00 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: thoughtomator
Anyone who would base the decision on his religion is doing so against the letter and the spirit of our Constitution (which explicitly forbids a religious test for office).

Sorry but I can't agree with you there. It's true that the Constitution forbids the government from establishing a religious test. But individuals are entirely free to vote on any basis they want, certainly including the religion of the candidate.

People make the same mistake when it comes to the presumption of innocence. That applies to the judicial system. It surely doesn't apply to individuals.

For example, if Joseph Smith, the guy recently convicted of Carlie Brucia, and whose abduction of her was caught on tape, came and applied for a daycare job with you, would you be violating the spirit of the Constitution by failing to apply the presumption of innocence? Of course not. Same thing as to religious tests.

73 posted on 12/17/2005 9:10:47 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: orionblamblam
Heck, that cult checklist would cover not only Mormonism, but pretty much all of evangelical Christianity, too.

You said it. I didn't. ;-)

74 posted on 12/17/2005 9:10:51 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: JCEccles
I agree that the heart can mean well while the person may actually be doing something wrong if they only knew better.

However, as Mormons are unfortunately aware because they also claim to read the Bible, they already know better.

Therefore, unless they repent of their knowing wrong, they will meet a fate on Judgment Day that will not surprise.
75 posted on 12/17/2005 9:12:25 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: peyton randolph

Maybe a cult is like pornography - you know it when you see it. But you could take that same checklist and find that it applies to mainstream religions too.


76 posted on 12/17/2005 9:12:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Mr. Blonde
Why not? We have already elected an outright Communist. I speak of Jimma "the Red" Carter.

I am making this provactive statement right now for the following reason. There has been a deafening silence from the media on both sides of the political spectrum on what in my judgement is one of the biggest stories of the year.

The recent elections in Venezuela have been declared unfair by all of the organizations that were there to monitor it. It was declared unfair because the voting procedures virtually invited voter fraud and intimidation by the government. These same procedures were in place in the disputed recall election that spawned the completion of the Chavez takeover of the Venezuelan Republic. That election was validated by Jimma Carter before the ballots were even counted.

So it has now been established that the actions of Jimma Carter, either wittingly or dimwittingly, were central to the Communist takeover of Venezuela by Chavez.

Where is the coverage of this story? Anyone seen it on Fox News or heard it discussed on talk radio? ... Oh, I forgot, Sean Hannity was too busy kissing Brian William's behind to cover this topic. My mistake.

It is well beyond time to expose Carter for the aging Stalinst loving fool that he is.

77 posted on 12/17/2005 9:12:56 AM PST by trek
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To: Mr. Blonde
All other considerations being equal, A Mormon would be less favored by voters than a Catholic or Jew.

Evangelical Christians, in particular, would be highly skeptical of a Morman.

There's an interesting article I found that explores the religious aspect.Mitt's Mormon Problem

On the bright side, Mitt would fare better than a muslim.

78 posted on 12/17/2005 9:13:29 AM PST by smoothsailing ('68'69 Nam vet-NEVER FORGET)
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To: durasell
A cult tends to isolate its members from the rest of the world.

You mean, like monasteries? I mean that not as a slight to the RC church, but as a demonstration of the point that cults are basically in the eye of the beholder.

79 posted on 12/17/2005 9:15:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
you could take that same checklist and find that it applies to mainstream religions too.

Handy reference guide for looking at multilevel marketing (MLM) a.k.a. network marketing companies too, such as Amway, Mary Kay, Primerica, etc.

80 posted on 12/17/2005 9:15:39 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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