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Brokeback Mountin Bombs at Box Office; Holiday BO smells
data from Box Office Mojo ^ | 12/17/05 | Dangus

Posted on 12/17/2005 11:10:22 AM PST by dangus

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To: CaptainK

"Wait until it goes overseas and they love it to death in Europe."

It's already opened overseas, and recouped its costs. Whatever else happens, the movie will not lose money. Factor in future DVD sales, and it will make a profit.


321 posted on 12/18/2005 3:55:48 AM PST by Coronal
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To: durasell

Have you seen 'An American Friend'(1977). directed by Wim Wenders, starring Bruno Ganz and Dennis Hopper (as Tom Ripley - yes, that Ripley). Robbie Mueller shot it with incredible art amd shading. For my money it is what small film should be, if a bit ambiguous in spots.


322 posted on 12/18/2005 5:49:25 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: dangus
"Brokeback Mountain," the story of two cowboys grappling with their love for each other, was the top Golden Globe contender Tuesday, picking up seven nominations, including best dramatic picture. CNN.com

If this movie is such a flop at the box office how could it possibly pick up seven nominations for a Golden Globe?

323 posted on 12/18/2005 6:34:41 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: Coronal

I agree with you. I said that in all my posts.


324 posted on 12/18/2005 8:06:23 AM PST by CaptainK
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To: RavenATB

OK


325 posted on 12/18/2005 8:58:39 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: bulldozer
If this movie is such a flop at the box office how could it possibly pick up seven nominations for a Golden Globe?

Ordinary moviegoers find its theme repulsive. The Hollywood congniscenti are not ordinary moviergoers.

It is the "best" movie only if you have a warped view of what qualifies as quality entertainment. Brokeback Mountain is a movie Hollywood made for itself. The storyline perfectly reflects Hollywood's liberal conceit and morally dissolute values. That's why the Hollywood congniscenti rave over it.

Brokeback Mountain might even win the Oscar for best picture. It is analogous to nominating multiple murderer Tookie Williams for the Nobel Peace Prize, or awarding it to the dictator-appeasing Jimmy Carter or master terrorist Yassir Arafat--two men who have done more to undermine world peace than any other two men in the past 35 years. But they satisfy the warped Nobel Committee's liberal sensibilities, so there you have it.

326 posted on 12/18/2005 9:17:01 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: bulldozer
I believe that sick birds of a feather will all ways flock together.

Therefore, Brokeyourback aMountinyou will absolutely receive all kinds of rewards from it's fellow sick perverted supporters.

This is nothing more than an all out attack on American traditions by people who are only want sudden gratification.
327 posted on 12/18/2005 9:17:03 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: dangus

From the "Defamer" H'wood gossip site:


The Clip Show: Thou Shalt Love “Brokeback”

· Critics everywhere fall all over themselves heaping praise and going Golden Globe gaga over the gay cowboy movie, further pushing us to a fearsome Brokeback Police State, where any criticism above a hushed whisper will result in you being instantly shot (a dirty gay look).
http://www.defamer.com/


328 posted on 12/18/2005 10:10:53 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: Coronal
It's already opened overseas, and recouped its costs. Whatever else happens, the movie will not lose money. Factor in future DVD sales, and it will make a profit.

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No it has not. And, the foreign sales numbers will not be effected by whatever it does at BO overseas. Sales deals are made by territory for a fixed amount. Any film is considered exceptionally fortunate to get even 50% out of foreign. A controversial film can expect even less.

As for rentals, this is never a significant piece of revenue for the studios primarily because their piece is limited.

Most films do not come close to breaking even. This will fare worse than most. The numbers are already in steep decline and unless the hard-core audience who packed the theaters (all puns intended) last week-end turn this into a crusade and spend their lives in the theater this will disappear long before the mid-January target date for 300 plus theaters.

329 posted on 12/18/2005 10:43:10 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: wtc911

I've seen American Friend several times, if just for Bruno. Wings of Desire is a favorite movie. It's good, but Ripley is a tough character to make sympathetic. However, the re-make did a credible job.


330 posted on 12/18/2005 11:47:35 AM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

...actually, not exactly a re-make, but you know what I mean.


331 posted on 12/18/2005 11:48:13 AM PST by durasell
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To: mysterio
His movie is also bloated, over-long, too violent, very horrific and a bit tooo preposterous

Can you explain to me how it's violent and horrific?
332 posted on 12/18/2005 11:53:42 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: durasell
The best Ripley was the late sixties (maybe 70 or 71) French film "Purple Noon" with Alain Delon. It came out theatrically again a few years ago with the Matt Damon, studio money effort.

btw...the best part of An American Friend was Mueller's camera work and lighting followed by hopper's odd intensity. This was made in Europe (under the then existing tax shelter laws which gave birth to dozens of films that otherwise would not have been made - including the great war film "Cross of Iron") at a time when Hopper had killed his US career and was paying the bills in low-budget fare overseas (like "Mad Dog Cole" from OZ). This period has his best work imo.

333 posted on 12/18/2005 11:56:27 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: wtc911

Patricia Highsmith was an extremely odd person. And Ripley is probably one of the oddest characters in modern fiction.

I was never a dennis hopper fan, though he did do some good things recently -- Bruno the art collector in Basquiat etc. Some of the scenes playing opposite David Bowie as Warhol are great.

I thought Damon was a good Ripley -- a blank that's filled in slowly. Plus, there's Philip Seymour Hoffman.


334 posted on 12/18/2005 12:09:43 PM PST by durasell
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To: zbigreddogz
The opposition to this film on FR really surprises me. I thought we took a 'live and let live' position

No, we are conservatives not libertarians. We actually care about the moral fiber of this country know as our founders new with moral decline comes the loss for freedoms because an immoral society is one that preys on each other.

335 posted on 12/18/2005 12:28:22 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: dangus; All

The only thing that puzzles me about all the buzz around Brokeback Mountain, is that the short story that it's based upon was written by the otherwise brilliant E. Annie Proulx. (The Shipping News)

I've not seen that mentioned in any reviews, nor mentioned here. She is a masterful storyteller, and while there was a thread of homosexuality in the original short story, which I read, they more than exploited it in the movie to pander to some unknown sector of the audience.

Since she's not standing up and taking any credit for it, nor did she write the screenplay, I find that to be A Good Thing. Hopefully just a misjudgement on her part as to who she sold the rights to?

Has anyone seen anything, anywhere on this? (Besides the slanted cr@p at Wikipedia.) *Rolleyes*

It also truly amazes me that Larry McMurtry would be involved in writing the screenplay. I've always had a lot of respect for his writing, as well (Lonesome Dove, Terms of Endearment, etc.)

Why would talented people, both Pulitzer Prize winners, want to be involved in exploitation like this? Oh, yeah. Money! LOL! Well, they'll be saddened on this one...


336 posted on 12/18/2005 12:31:54 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Larry McMurtry must be senile to attach his name and talents to this oatburner.


337 posted on 12/18/2005 12:33:28 PM PST by Palladin (Merry Christmas! God bless us, every one!)
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To: Coronal
It's already opened overseas, and recouped its costs. Whatever else happens, the movie will not lose money. Factor in future DVD sales, and it will make a profit.

As for DVD sales I think it will flop because some retailers such as Wal-Mart won't carry a controversial homosexual cowboy movie.

338 posted on 12/18/2005 12:50:56 PM PST by bulldozer
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To: Vision

I think you might have responded to the wrong post. I never said anything about a movie being bloated or violent. I like bloated, violent movies, actually.


339 posted on 12/18/2005 5:03:58 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Cicero
We saw the latest Harry Potter last week.....It was good, but not nearly as good IMHO as the earlier ones. A bit too dark and bleak

My thirteen-YO granddaughter, a girl who adores all things HarryPotter, was so disappointed in the latest movie that she wept for days. It hasn't flagged her rereads of each one of the books, though!

340 posted on 12/18/2005 6:08:32 PM PST by WaterDragon
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