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Scientist’s quest to solve Ripper case (Jack the Ripper)
icLanarkshire ^ | 12/15/05 | Emily Henderson

Posted on 12/17/2005 12:33:45 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: conservativeharleyguy

I was thinking the same exact thing. Although Cornwell has no real proof since old Scotland Yard's records were destroyed during the London Blitz, her analysis of the case's circumstantial evidence that Sickert was the Ripper is most compelling.


41 posted on 12/17/2005 3:06:03 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: bilhosty
"It is commonly accepted by the experts on the case that none of the letters purported to have been written by the Ripper were in fact written by him."

This may not be a good way to prove the case after all.

However, if the DNA evidence from the letters can be linked to one of the suspects, it would change a lot of things.

42 posted on 12/17/2005 3:08:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Democrats in Congress ask for investigation into potential Bush administration involvement. Sources say that vice president Cheney will likely be asked to testify.


43 posted on 12/17/2005 3:10:11 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: socal_parrot
Done!

Great!!! I'm a sucker for Red Fedoras

44 posted on 12/17/2005 3:17:35 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: kalee

self ping for later reading


45 posted on 12/17/2005 3:49:36 PM PST by kalee
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Inflation strikes again.


46 posted on 12/17/2005 4:06:47 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Siegfried The Red

by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)

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47 posted on 12/17/2005 4:09:23 PM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: wagglebee
I can't stay on a site like that ... The flashing ads on the left hand side really do a number on me .. I start to get migraines. ...
48 posted on 12/17/2005 4:17:47 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: conservativeharleyguy
It's already been solved, as far as I'm concerned. If you're really interested, read "Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper-Case Closed" by Patricia Cornwell. It's a done deal. An artist named Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper.

The Ripper murders were a Victorian Watergate. Check out "Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution" by Stephen Knight. (Scroll down to the reviews.) . Interesting speculation that the Ripper was actually a team of three (one of which was Sickert) eliminating some prostitutes who were trying to blackmail British royalty over a bastard child (who was also a target) fathered by the Duke of Clarence. Heavy Masonic overtones, with Sir William Gull as the Ripper, a coachman named Netley, and Sickert doing lookouts and other go-fer duties. (Sickert supposedly had Ripperesque overtones in his paintings and their titles.)

As you mentioned, Cornwell did the DNA thing, along with noticing the similarity of writing paper used in some notes.

Knight makes an interesting observation on the spelling of one Ripper note, mentioning that "knif" for knife was a clue that an educated person was trying to impersonate someone unlettered. He said someone ignorant would have spelled it "nife".

Lots of interesting speculation that ties things together and leads me to believe he found out the truth.

49 posted on 12/17/2005 5:45:43 PM PST by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: wagglebee

It's Bush's fault!


50 posted on 12/17/2005 6:17:11 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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To: PzLdr

I'd cover my bet by placing some money on "person or presons unkonwn" as well, but yeah Montague John Druitt looks good for it.


51 posted on 12/17/2005 6:19:36 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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To: rightazrain
She thought it was an artist (can't remember his name, Slick or something like that)

Waaaay before his time.

52 posted on 12/17/2005 6:24:24 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: rightazrain

Patricia Cormwell had access to orignal records in London, and wrote an excellent non-fiction book which is as you say "a real page-turner". She builds a plausible case for the identity of Jack-the-Ripper.


53 posted on 12/17/2005 6:27:30 PM PST by Carolinamom (Winter is in my head , but eternal spring is in my heart. ---Victor Hugo)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
her analysis of the case's circumstantial evidence that Sickert was the Ripper is most compelling.

Cornwell (like most Ripper enthusiasts) tends to skate inconventient facts. To fit her theosry that the Ripper was impotent, she declares Sickett was too, on the basis he had some kind of operation at the age of 5. Ignoring that the guy was married three times.

54 posted on 12/17/2005 6:32:25 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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To: Oatka
Lots of interesting speculation that ties things together and leads me to believe he found out the truth.

No motive

to blackmail British royalty over a bastard child (who was also a target) fathered by the Duke of Clarence.

Exactly 9 months before Elizabeth Crook, the alleged Royal Bastard, was born, Prince albert Edward Victor was in the middle of a two month tour of Geramay. Also there ware indicarions that he was not so much attracted to the ladies, if you know what I mean.

55 posted on 12/17/2005 6:48:29 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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56 posted on 12/17/2005 6:48:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: conservativeharleyguy

Isn't she a great author?


57 posted on 12/17/2005 6:50:58 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Well, according to Cornwell, Sickert's early operation was to repair a fistula (literally a hole caused by a severe infection) in his privates and that the surgery was botched, rendering him "non-functional" physically even though both his normal biological impulses remained intact. Her argument therefore is Freudian in basis, but again, she has no real proof. However, Sickert apparently lived in White Chapel in 1888 and did have a morbid fascination with the Ripper in later life, even painting a picture entitled 'Jack the Ripper's bedroom.'


58 posted on 12/18/2005 8:27:38 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


59 posted on 12/19/2005 11:25:32 AM PST by windcliff
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