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Sunnis ready to cooperate with U.S.
Washington Times ^ | 12/18/2005 | Paul Martin

Posted on 12/18/2005 3:54:30 AM PST by baystaterebel

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To: chronic_loser
I wouldn't say stupid.....cunning yes.

This now becomes LETS MAKE A DEAL. From what I read they want fewer raids.....we counter with we want Zaraqwi...its horse trading now.

21 posted on 12/18/2005 4:36:02 AM PST by Dog
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To: freeangel
How far are they to be trusted? I get the feeling they are just stalling for time.

The Sunnis are a minority. If they want us to leave so they can start a civil war it doesn't sound like a good plan to me, especially as the government of Iraq will be able to count on US support at least through 08 and probably beyond.

22 posted on 12/18/2005 4:42:09 AM PST by bkepley
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To: guinnessman
"In Muslim military history, there is a longtime tactic of using negotiations to stall for time until the conditions were favorable to attack."

The same thing is true of North Vietnamese military history. Except that instead of a sandstorm, they waited for the U.S. MSM to blow smoke.

23 posted on 12/18/2005 4:53:40 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: bkepley
Especially as the government of Iraq will be able to count on US support at least through 08 and probably beyond.

I expect regular bases to be established in Iraq via treaties with the new democratically elected government. In fact, I expect we'll be there at least as long as we've had post WWII bases in Germany. These bases will serve as launch points for the liberation of Iran.

24 posted on 12/18/2005 4:55:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: angkor

And them Iraqi boys ain't a' gonna just be using no panties on the head! Haven't heard their leaders talk about any "we don't do no torture" rule.


25 posted on 12/18/2005 4:59:04 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The Fifth Column is alive and well in the U.S.)
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To: baystaterebel

Trust but Verify


26 posted on 12/18/2005 5:01:31 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: baystaterebel

Agreed Rebel.

But I am trying to remember, arent we losing?

Isnt getting the last group on board a sure sign of impending defeat?

Lets find some war heroes to ask.....there seem to be a lot of them running around Washington these days.


27 posted on 12/18/2005 5:02:29 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

good anology


28 posted on 12/18/2005 5:08:06 AM PST by moonman
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To: baystaterebel

Fight in rubble for nothing... or play-the-game for power and a piece of the pie. One thing is certain, you will hear little of this on the talk-shows today.


29 posted on 12/18/2005 5:16:02 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: moonman
It has probably already been mentioned...

But I think that we will see a dramatic slowdown to Sunni insurgency activities.

However, the reasons behind the slowdown will remain to be seen. Personally, if I were a terrorist organization I would use the elections as a means to regroup and wait out the heavy US presence. Lull the american public and politicians into thinking "mission accomplished", wait for a troop drawdown for a few years and then start everything back up.

But...it could backfire as well. What iraqis lack in training and materials they make up for with ruthlessness. They have no problems fighting dirty and I think that the terrorist elements know that.
30 posted on 12/18/2005 5:20:30 AM PST by Muttering Mike
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To: baystaterebel

.....Slow learners to be sure......

You are correct. The question raised by this action is what can these leaders contribute to the ongoing process of developing a new government and nation?

Can they in fact control the minority zealots who are warring agaist the rest of the country?

Will they abandon their alliance with Al Queada and turn on them?

Time will tell.


31 posted on 12/18/2005 5:21:59 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . McCain......Angry, frustrated,flustered, shot down.)
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To: SamAdams76
Soon, the Sunni problem with be solely Iraq's problem to deal with and the Iraqi military

And you can bet your bottom dollar they won't have McPain's bill of terrorist rights to protect them.

32 posted on 12/18/2005 6:13:03 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Joe Boucher
The Sunnis have been responsible for the majority of violence against American troops. They should be exterminated.

This isn't the first time I've said this to you, nor will it be the last I'm sure. But thank God you are not in charge!

33 posted on 12/18/2005 6:24:04 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Dog

The Iranian point is a big deal and one that has been vastly unappreciated. Iran wants Iraq under its influence and the Sunni's and Kurds simply won't allow that to happen. Once we leave the region who knows how that one shakes out but you can certainly bet that our former enemies are going to develop a strong interest in becoming our best friends.


34 posted on 12/18/2005 6:49:56 AM PST by misterrob
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To: guinnessman

They see us as not being there forever and if you think that they hate us it pales in comparison to how they feel about the Iranians.


35 posted on 12/18/2005 6:51:37 AM PST by misterrob
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To: baystaterebel

AQ is running out of allies.



" Al Qaeda was never part of the truce, and yesterday it reportedly threatened to continue its campaign of terrorism.

"We say to our [Sunni] brothers: do not be fooled by what you have heard of the propaganda from the crusaders and their footmen," said an Internet statement from Al Qaeda in Iraq.

"The coming days will show you the fate of this 'democratic marriage' and the marriage of prostitution that it celebrated," said the statement on a frequently used terrorist Web site.

The group, led by Jordanian Abu Musab Zarqawi, also said it did not halt attacks during last week.

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051218-101428-3922r


36 posted on 12/18/2005 7:42:54 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: baystaterebel
Basically, the Sunnis have finally figured out that they have two choices: We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. So far they have chosen the hard way and found themselves getting the snot kicked out of them. Slow learners to be sure.

Not as slow as some people.


37 posted on 12/18/2005 7:43:40 AM PST by Polybius
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Jordan military court sentences al-Zarqawi to death (again)

http://www.winktv.com/x466.xml?URL=http://localhost/APWIREFEED/d8ein6881.xml


38 posted on 12/18/2005 7:44:01 AM PST by No Blue States
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Al Sadr wants to count chads:

"Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, in a speech in the city of Najaf, warned against possible fraud in the election results and called for an independent committee to be formed to count the ballots, Al-Hurra television reported."


39 posted on 12/18/2005 7:48:43 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: baystaterebel
We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. So far they have chosen the hard way and found themselves getting the snot kicked out of them

Wait, I thought the US was losing the war? Senators, Congressmen,the NY Times and CNN have been saying so non stop!

40 posted on 12/18/2005 7:54:49 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Liberalism is the philosophy of the stupid - The Great One)
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