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Preventing a Nuclear Iran-- Should Military Force be Used?
Georgetown University ^ | December 13, 2005 | Anthony Clark Arend

Posted on 12/18/2005 2:16:41 PM PST by billorites

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To: Dr.Zoidberg
If such an industrial accident occured, it would be impossible to blame the Israelis.

Of course Islamofascists would blame Israel for such an "industrial accident," it would be a no-brainer. It would increase anti-Israeli sentiment in the Arab world if Israel was blamed, therefore Israel would be blamed.

101 posted on 12/19/2005 3:03:43 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad
The mohammedans loathe Israel anyway. If a goat has an abscessed tooth, it's a Jewish plot. Who gives a damn what they think? When your religion demands genocide against the Jews, it's hard to say anything will increase anti-Israeli sentiment.

Of course the accusation would be made by the foaming at the mouth anti-semites the world over, nothing can stop that. It's those in the world whose thinking doesn't solely consist of "It's was the evil JOOOOZ!" I referred to.
102 posted on 12/19/2005 3:34:13 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: billorites

BTT...


103 posted on 12/19/2005 3:35:02 PM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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To: billorites
While there is a debate among international legal scholars about the permissibility of the preemptive use of force under the United Nations Charter, most scholars and states would acknowledge that "anticipatory self-defense" continues to be lawful under existing international law.

Law is an attribute of sovereignty.

There is no power sovereign over the world, hence, there is no such thing as international "law".

And the debate about what is "permissible" under that piece of toilet paper called the UN Charter?

Absurd.

Absurd to the tenth power.

104 posted on 12/19/2005 3:41:24 PM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: Gay State Conservative

"The filthbags now in charge in Iran make Hitler look like a 10 year old schoolgirl by comparison."

I dont know about your ratio, but they teach the exact same message that it is their duty to erradicate the Jews from the earth. Knowing history, I have no doubt other Western countries would have attacked Nazi Germany in 1935-36 before they had completed the Panzer battalions that swept through Europe.


105 posted on 12/19/2005 3:44:05 PM PST by quant5
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To: shield

"It is so...I was talking to several Army officers the other night, that's what they said. I spoke of Israel and they confirmed there's a real possibility that Israel will hit Iran."

Well it made national media (was it August?) that we 'sold' Israel 5000 smart bombs. They will put this to good use no doubt. Israel already has a substantial deterrent so....


106 posted on 12/19/2005 3:49:15 PM PST by quant5
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To: cmppc

"The US doesn't have to do anything. Israel will take care of this problem easily and efficiently, like they did with Saddam's nuclear facility some years ago. The Israeli air force is so far superior to the Iranian defenses that it is unlikely they will lose a single aircraft."

Maybe, but Iran learned from Osirik and has buried their major facilities deep underground.


107 posted on 12/19/2005 3:50:26 PM PST by quant5
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

"Of course the accusation would be made by the foaming at the mouth anti-semites the world over, nothing can stop that. It's those in the world whose thinking doesn't solely consist of "It's was the evil JOOOOZ!" I referred to."

Isn't it interesting yet sad that we have not learned from human history about our behavior? Our species must always have someone or something for our personal or collective failures.


108 posted on 12/19/2005 3:51:52 PM PST by quant5
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To: quant5
Our species must always have someone or something for our personal or collective failures.

Beats introspection. Ask any liberal.
109 posted on 12/19/2005 3:55:13 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: billorites
Yes, bombing during the Carter Castration of an Administration would have been nice.

This all started with France and that creepy Khomeini.

110 posted on 12/19/2005 4:02:37 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: quant5

I didn't know the facility is deep underground. This will make it much more difficult, depending on how deep. This may be why they're reported to be planning some kind of combined air and ground assault this time.


111 posted on 12/19/2005 4:38:15 PM PST by cmppc
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To: sgtbono2002
The day we decide to bomb Iran alone without the Europeans we will face nothing but criticism.

If it comes to this, criticism will be the least of our concerns. Personally, I'd really prefer not to have anyone get bombed-- us, euro's, or Iranians. But my take on the matter is gloomy and I have concluded that something decisive will one day have to be done.

These mullahs are nuts and capable of anything. That means, we must be capable of whatever it takes to stay safe.

112 posted on 12/19/2005 7:16:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Salem
and old ideas of "containment" and "sanctions" are just impediments to coming to grips

Indeed. What does "containment" mean, when the problem is a handful perhaps of intermediate range missiles launched from Iranian territory toward Israel, and maybe Europe, by fanatics who don't care if they get vaporized in return? What "sanctions" could possibly mean anything more than a mosquito bite to such savages?

113 posted on 12/19/2005 7:20:48 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Southack
...Iran will either give up their nukes the easy way or the hard way.

Exactly the scenario I have been looking forward to since March 2003 with a few additional notes:

1. No matter how many torpedoes Iran has, they cannot sink land-based aircraft carriers Iraq and Afghanistan, therefore the sea-based aircraft carriers remain free to address the Korean and Taiwan situations.

2. During the "grace period" before Iran has nukes, Syria with Saddam's WMD must be liquidated to protect our western rear.

3. Pakistan must be fully engaged, possibly by India (for a substantial quid pro quo), to protect our eastern rear. Ultimately, Pakistan must be denuked as well.

4. Finally, terror-central Saudi Arabia will be physically and theologically isolated and neutralized.
114 posted on 12/20/2005 12:42:11 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I agree some day we will have to do something, but let the Euros sweat. Who knows they may wake up some day and do something themselves.


115 posted on 12/20/2005 9:40:53 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The alphabet channels --spying for the enemy.)
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To: Fred Nerks
unless the West finds the military, political, moral and spiritual will to stop this insanity. Iran will be a challenge we cannot escape.....

The West.....???

While "the West" is sitting on their ass, Israel will be removing this threat.

Can't wait to hear the DemoRats bust their spleen when it happens.

When it happens.........not "if"...........when.

LVM

116 posted on 12/20/2005 6:42:50 PM PST by LasVegasMac (HoOked on Fonics. Dun goOd For me?)
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To: cmppc

"I didn't know the facility is deep underground. This will make it much more difficult, depending on how deep. This may be why they're reported to be planning some kind of combined air and ground assault this time."

An attack on the ground would likely be the only real solution. Leave the population out of it and keep the leadership underground as we restructure a new democracy around it. That is what worked with Saddam, he was still alive and claiming he was the ruler while a new government was being formed.


117 posted on 12/21/2005 8:22:48 AM PST by quant5
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