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LIVE THREAD - President Bush Speech 18 Dec 05 (9:00 PM EST)
12-18-05 | 2111USMC

Posted on 12/18/2005 3:29:18 PM PST by 2111USMC

9:00 PM EST

8:00 PM CST

etc, etc ........


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borders; iraq; iraqielection; iraqspeech; presidentbush
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To: 2111USMC

No, you do not have to babysit it; it takes care of itself!


81 posted on 12/18/2005 4:15:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Is he gone yet? LOL! A Bob Dylan fan, no less!

I LOVE live threads! We need to have more of them.

82 posted on 12/18/2005 4:15:49 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: turbocat

Networks carrying it to. Predicted speech of 15-16 minutes.


83 posted on 12/18/2005 4:16:05 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: carton253

Where was that one, carton?


84 posted on 12/18/2005 4:16:21 PM PST by Howlin
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To: robert zimmerman
I bet his approval rating climbs to 41 percent.

That would be alot higher then the 26% that Jimmy Carter had

85 posted on 12/18/2005 4:16:23 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Howlin

I was wondering why there wasn't one earlier. People need to see it on the top of the sidebar to remind them it is coming up soon. I hope that he is "on" tonight with his message and that he lets the traitors know that divulging classified information is going across the line. He has a lot to be proud of with the Iraq elections going well and I hope that he is confident, strong and exhibits leadership.


86 posted on 12/18/2005 4:16:30 PM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: Howlin
Get'R Done


87 posted on 12/18/2005 4:16:33 PM PST by deport (Merry Christmas; Feliz Navidad; Buon Natale; Joyeux Noël to one and all and Happy Holidays to.)
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To: don-o

I don't know...but it reminds me of when I was a kid...and my parents got to the drive-in movie way early so we could play on the playground...

Soo..let's play! LOL


88 posted on 12/18/2005 4:17:22 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Shoot...when NASCAR events are at the Texas Motor Speedway, people start pulling in with their "double wides" about Tuesday!! LOL


89 posted on 12/18/2005 4:19:28 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: laney

The White House asked for time for him to talk about Iraq in light of the Election there.

Quite a few folks seem to think he might announce some surprise, or that he might skewer the Senate for diddling away the Patriot Act and skewer those responsible for the leak in the NY Times about our listening in on terror suspect phone calls and skewer those who accuse him of doing something wrong when he wasn't and is just trying to keep us from getting hit again like 9-ll.

It remains to be seen if he will add anything to the expected Iraq topic.


90 posted on 12/18/2005 4:19:32 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: Howlin
No, you do not have to babysit it; it takes care of itself!

LOL
My son is reading along.
Now changing a #2 diaper.


Since I'm the granddad I dont have to do that anymore.

2111USMC, count yourself lucky!!1
91 posted on 12/18/2005 4:19:51 PM PST by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: Howlin

The documentary? It was on PBS, but I saw it twice during History of Terrorism class...You can get the book he wrote based on the documentary. Those lunatics need to be spied on... rounded up...either deported or sent to Gitmo.


92 posted on 12/18/2005 4:20:34 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: carton253
but I wonder how far we will have to go before someone laments the fact that the President "just isn't a good speaker."

Oh, that will be posted as a separate thread, with something like "Is it just me, or is Bush losing it..." posted by one of the usual suspects.

It will be posted BEFORE the END of the speech, and BEFORE the (not labeled vanity) "I'm posting a thread about the President's speech because I am too lazy to go to the last post on the Live Thread and see what's going on, but I want to talk about it" thread. :-)

93 posted on 12/18/2005 4:20:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: txrangerette
The president is to speak to the nation in his first address from the Oval Office since he announced the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003. Excerpts of his remarks were released in advance.

His speech comes amid an uproar in Congress over whether he exceeded his powers in conducting the war on terror with a secret eavesdropping program and on a day that Vice President Dick Cheney made a surprise visit to Baghdad.

The Pentagon hopes to be able to reduce U.S. troop levels as Iraqi security forces become more capable of defending their own country, but it is unclear when that point will be reached. The usual U.S. troop level this year of about 138,000 was strengthened to about 160,000 this fall out of concern for a potential rise in violence during voting in October and December.

"It is also important for every American to understand the consequences of pulling out of Iraq before our work is done," excerpts of Bush's speech say. "We would abandon our Iraqi friends and signal to the world that America cannot be trusted to keep its word. ... We would hand Iraq over to enemies who have pledged to attack us and the global terrorist movement would be emboldened and more dangerous than ever before."

Acknowledging doubts about his strategy, Bush's speech reads, "Some look at the challenges in Iraq, and conclude that the war is lost, and not worth another dime or another day.

"I don't believe that," it says. "Our military commanders do not believe that. Our troops in the field, who bear the burden and make the sacrifice, do not believe that America has lost. And not even the terrorists believe it. We know from their own communications that they feel a tightening noose and fear the rise of a democratic Iraq."

Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., has said the United States should redeploy all troops as quickly as possible because more than half of the Iraqis people "want us out and almost half of them think we're the enemy."

A new poll shows that a strong majority of Americans oppose an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops. The AP-Ipsos poll found 57 percent of those surveyed said the U.S. military should stay until Iraq is stabilized.

There is skepticism on Capitol Hill about the U.S. military's ability to sustain forces in Iraq indefinitely and about the ability of Iraqis to carry the load.

"We failed to expand the Army and Marine Corps as many of us wanted to happen a long time ago," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Appearing on ABC's "This Week," McCain said that even though militias control some parts of the Iraqi military and there is still corruption, there now are certain towns where the Iraqi military has been able to take over from U.S. troops.

Regarding a turnover to Iraqi troops, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said Bush "has to tell us how we're going to get there. The people on the ground said there is one battalion that can fight alone.

"The last speech he gave, he used the word `victory' 14 times. What does that mean?" asked Reid, appearing on "Fox News Sunday."

Levin said Iraqis must be told the United States will reconsider its presence unless the new constitution is revised to give the Sunni-Arab community a bigger stake in running the country.

"That's the club, that's the leverage which we must exercise," said Levin. "They've got to unify in order to beat the insurgency."

A disabled Iraq war veteran who is running for Congress in Illinois said she thinks going into Iraq was a mistake.

"We should have been fighting the enemies that attacked us at home on 9/11," said Major Tammy Duckworth, appearing on ABC's "This Week." "We should have been out there trying to catch Osama bin Laden."

94 posted on 12/18/2005 4:21:13 PM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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To: carton253

I read the book; I'd love to see it.


95 posted on 12/18/2005 4:21:17 PM PST by Howlin
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To: tsmith130

Hell..just go to bed, it's already posted on Drudge..so the Democrats have time to formulate a response.

I wouldn't expect anything to rousing


96 posted on 12/18/2005 4:21:44 PM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: 76834

btt


97 posted on 12/18/2005 4:22:13 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Howlin

You're probably right... but those people make me nuts...


98 posted on 12/18/2005 4:22:18 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: 2111USMC
Well here's hoping it's a short speech. Looks like a decent new Christmas movie on CBS and a rerun of Christmas Vacation on NBC. Is there really anything new that he could say anyway?
99 posted on 12/18/2005 4:23:31 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Howlin

I did my Christmas cards yesterday...glad I am not the only late one..LOL


100 posted on 12/18/2005 4:24:01 PM PST by Txsleuth
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