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To: Kolokotronis
"Again, neither Rome nor Holy Orthodoxy state that there were not groups outside of The Church, which called themselves Christians. They were heretics."

That's all you needed to say. You make my point well. You have to protect your system. Anything not under your church's authority is heretical. You said it yourself, just as I stated your position in my post. You believe that in the 1st through 3rd centuries there were people you claim as being what you are now, and besides these, anyone claiming to know Christ was a HERETIC. Thank you. That destroys any credibility in your historical research. Any history written with such a mindset is skewed.
434 posted on 12/21/2005 9:07:04 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Free Baptist
That's all you needed to say. You make my point well. You have to protect your system. Anything not under your church's authority is heretical. You said it yourself, just as I stated your position in my post. You believe that in the 1st through 3rd centuries there were people you claim as being what you are now, and besides these, anyone claiming to know Christ was a HERETIC. Thank you. That destroys any credibility in your historical research. Any history written with such a mindset is skewed.

Do you believe in the Nicene Creed? Is Mary the Theotokos? Does Jesus have one nature or two? Answer these questions and reveal yourself. "Heretic" is just a word that means one believes in something outside of the defined orthodoxy. Since you ally yourself with the ancient heretics, it is interesting to see if you actually believe what they did, or if you hold orthodox beliefs.

After all, if the Church you hold in contempt is correct in its beliefs, while your "forefathers" in rejecting the Church for individual autonomy were wrong, doesn't that mean something?

435 posted on 12/21/2005 10:15:04 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Free Baptist
You make my point well. You have to protect your system.

You need to protect your system as well. You are not a disinterested party. You have made many disparaging remarks about the Church and defined Her as outside of the true beliefs you hold. How is this any different from we indentifying what is orthodox and what is heresy? You do it too.

SD

436 posted on 12/21/2005 10:16:57 AM PST by SoothingDave
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