[sheltonmac]

These people hate America, and would gladly quicken our defeat if only they could.

So, can we then assume that those who support warrantless tapping hate freedom, and would gladly give it up for a false sense of security? I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a constitutional scholar like our president, but it has always been my impression that any part of the Constitution--in this case the Fourth Amendment--can only be repealed by passing another amendment.

I have a question: Should the president be granted carte blanche when it comes to wiretaps? What wouldn't you allow him to do to "protect the country"? How much liberty are you willing to give up in order to feel safe? In the name of "national security," would you be willing to submit to a full cavity search everytime you boarded a plane, train or bus? Should every person in the nation be made to wear a tracking device so the government can monitor our every move? If you say "No," then we can only assume that you have something to hide.

[P-40]

Should the president be granted carte blanche when it comes to wiretaps?

I doubt many would say yes to that question...and fortunately it is not at issue now...except in the eyes of a media that is trying to create a story to boost sagging sales.

[Publius6961]

If you say "No," then we can only assume that you have something to hide.

Fortunately, there are enough basements and attics in the United States to deal with idiot relatives that must be kept out of sight...

[conservativecorner]

You don't know your history regarding various actions by Presidents in our nations history during times of war. Do some reading, maybe ask for some books for Christmas, before you make wild claims of loosing any of our freedoms. SHEESH!!!!!!

[conservativecorner]

Start with this, and then do additional digging for a clue!

No Crime in Bush's Spying
By Washington Times
Washington Times | December 20, 2005

Below is the Washington Times' editorial on the issue of spying on terrorists. Our only quibble: The National Security Agency's Echelon project spied on "trillions" of American citizens' conversations during the Clinton administration. Otherwise, the editorial is spot-on. -- The Editors.

Should the National Security Agency secretly eavesdrop on the telephone conversations of suspicious persons in the United States calling al-Qaeda operatives overseas? We might be more shocked if the Bush administration hadn't authorized such surveillance, provided it was done within the law. NSA's substantial resources, like those of the CIA and the military, should be properly and legally harnessed to fight the al-Qaeda threat wherever it appears.

Questions have been raised whether President Bush can do this without violating the law. He thinks he can: The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allows it, with congressional oversight and checks on executive authority, as well as presidential war powers. The guardians of civil liberties who object may be mistaking precedent -- that the NSA didn't engage in domestic spying activities until late 2001 or early 2002 -- for a nonexistent law saying that it can't.

Mr. Bush answered questions yesterday with unusual passion: that terrorists and their collaborators are agents of a foreign power on whom the government should be allowed to spy because such spying protects and preserves American lives. He had said in his Saturday radio address: "Two of the terrorist hijackers who flew a jet into the Pentagon, Nawaf al Hamzi and Khalid al Mihdhar, communicated while they were in the United States to al-Qaeda who were overseas. But we didn't know they were here until it was too late." Listening to their conversations -- both were aliens, one here illegally, one legally -- could have prevented tragedy.

The voices of outrage misread the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Title 50 of the U.S. Code, Chapter 36, Subchapter I, Section 1802, "Electronic surveillance authorization without court order," reads: "[T]he President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year," provided a series of conditions are met. Surveillance must be directed only at agents of foreign powers; there can be no likely surveillance of a "U.S. person" (more on this term below); and there must be strict congressional oversight in the intelligence committees. Mr. Bush says he has complied with these laws.

The critics ignore the Joint Authorization for Use of Military Force, enacted by Congress shortly after September 11, which can be viewed as a congressional declaration of war on the terrorists and a stamp of approval for the president's wartime actions.

And if the NSA ends up spying on a U.S. citizen? The "U.S. person" definition "does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power," according to the same law. An "agent of a foreign power" is anyone, citizen or otherwise, who "knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power." Which means that people who do not help al-Qaeda or other terrorists are safe from surveillance. Anyone who does, however, forfeits his rights and can be targeted for eavesdropping.

There is little novel about the domestic-spying revelations, only that Mr. Bush has chosen to break precedent by harnessing the NSA's substantial resources. Any government intrusion into private lives should make us all uneasy, but given the givens, given NSA's capabilities and above all the fearsome magnitude of the threat, we think the president's arguments persuasive.

Mr. Bush has not flinched from the criticism, and we applaud him for that. Congress could clear the confusion with an unmistakeable formal declaration of war on radical Islamist terrorism. Congressmen who sit on the intelligence committee could detail just how much they know and how long they've known it; it seems clear that several of the critics had prior knowledge of the program. In an era of airport searches and bomb-sniffing dogs, should a suspicious telephone call to Iran or Algeria be exempt from the war on terror?

[commonerX]

It seems like some can't wait to throw out our civil liberties for a sense of security.

[ForGod'sSake]

While I don't disagree with your points altogether, we are at war with fanatical Islam. JMO, but the steps the administration is taking should be codified and given sunset clauses so the issues would have to be revisited in the future. We of course would have to be vigilant in our future efforts when the time comes to tame the surveillance beast. Problem is, we will likely not go back to original intent. The camel's nose and all...

FGS

[ohioWfan]

If you haven't been on the phone with alQaeda agents abroad lately, you have nothing to fear, shelton.

Get a grip...........PLEASE!!

(Everything being done is within the law and the Constitution, and for our protection 'against Invasion.' If you want to live with absolute 'freedom' where no one is keeping you safe from death by foreign terrorism, there are plenty of other countries where you could live).