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The MSM continues to defend the democRATs. But it is interesting to note that after you finish reading past Rockefeller's lies, most of the democRATs admit they recieved the briefings. But of course the MSM will never put that in the first paragraph.
1 posted on 12/20/2005 6:30:32 AM PST by The_Victor
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War is for protecting your life, not your civil liberties. Some day, liberals will understand what is going on. I assume they also missed the speeches by Iran's new head that calls for the extermination of Israel and the U.S. It's fine with me, as long as they start with Hollywood.

My guess, the intelligence was officially gathered by a 'foreign agent' and passed to the U.S. The NSA loophole -- deal with it. All you need is a foreign agent at the controls of the NSA phone call eavesdrop console.

BTW, if you read the 9/11 Omission report they cite FISA as being too slow and cumbersome for fighting terrorists in the new information age.

I guess we need another "see he didn't connect the dots" event before liberals will finally get it. Only reason I can come up with for why liberals are hampering the dot connecting.

Hey defeatists -- It's a war. Get it? The terrorists want to kill us all? Get it yet?

Liberals are not to be trusted with the defense of the country.

2 posted on 12/20/2005 6:33:22 AM PST by Tarpon
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I can't believe that even Democrats are stupid enough to think attacking Bush for this will increase their chances in the next election.


3 posted on 12/20/2005 6:34:18 AM PST by bkepley
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Half of the dems won't even admit getting the briefings, fools like Graham claim they don't remember. You want to trust these cowards with the national security?


4 posted on 12/20/2005 6:34:26 AM PST by Williams
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"I feel unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse, these activities," West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said in a handwritten letter to Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003.

John D. Rockefeller, III sure has a slow mind, doesn't he?

5 posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:10 AM PST by syriacus (Murtha wants our troops redeployed. I wonder how he'd feel about redeploying them to Iran.)
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They think they've finally found something to impeach Bush with.
Turley on BOR last night and one of the Dem Reps hinted to just this thing yesterday.


6 posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:47 AM PST by philo (They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist. . . . Union General John Sedgwick last words)
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Yes, Democrats please jump on this bandwagon. Just like they jumped on the torture bandwagon, until a poll comes out that most people value the safety of their families more than the rights of the enemy.

What a bunch of losers and liars!

7 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:20 AM PST by BallyBill (I want NY Times publishers added to the Ten Most Wanted list.)
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"I voted for it, before I voted against it."


8 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:36 AM PST by Stark_GOP
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They're admitting again they were too dense to understand what was being briefed just as they admitted not understanding the war resolution they passed in 2002.

Should reconsider which party should be called the 'Stupid Party'.

9 posted on 12/20/2005 6:38:09 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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If one is functioning in the real world, and not moon-bat LaLa land, it's easy to see that this is total BS because thad they been opposed they would have leaked this 4 years ago. That they didn't do this is proof that they had no problem with it. That's the way Washington works.


10 posted on 12/20/2005 6:38:33 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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They supported the wire tap before they were against the wire tap.


11 posted on 12/20/2005 6:39:07 AM PST by Vasilli22 (http://www.richardfest.blogspot.com/)
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Right. The same people who never read the intelligence briefings. Dumb as Ox Democrats.
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(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

12 posted on 12/20/2005 6:39:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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This was such a poorly thought out article, it was almost too painful to read. The idea that "some Republicans" have concerns, and then mention one name, and it was shocking to see that it was Arlen Specter. The author takes every chance she can find to make gratuitous attacks against the administration, including the death count in Iraq. I guess I should expect this level of "reporting" from the AP.
18 posted on 12/20/2005 6:45:43 AM PST by Sthitch
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Wait a minute these liberals did not give a rat's hairy behind when Clintons were wiretapping, collecting FBI files and that ABLE DANGER data mining for their own political purposes.

We got some mental defects being exposed for them to start claiming they do not back wiretapping.
19 posted on 12/20/2005 6:46:03 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has promised hearings next year and said he would ask Bush's Supreme Court nominee, Samuel Alito, his views of the president's authority for spying without a warrant.

Why, again, did Bush prop up this guy against Toomey, and then not get rid of him as Judiciary chairman after the election?

20 posted on 12/20/2005 6:46:35 AM PST by NYCVirago
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The 'rats are going to drown trying to challenge the President on this.

My wife said last night that Americans would not be able sleep at night if people like Byrd, Reid, Pelosi, and Kerry were in charge of keeping us safe.

21 posted on 12/20/2005 6:46:40 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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Listening to the members of the MSM/dem party caterwaul last night, their talking point was "the President has not made the legal case for intercepting and eavesdropping on phone calls."

To begin with, I was under the impression, and someone I am sure will correct me if I am wrong, that it is perfectly legal intercept phone calls so long as it is done abroad, ex-US. During the news conference yesterday, the President hinted that this was the case, the he authorized intercepting calls ex-US. It also seems to me that in order for the President to thoroughly defend himself, which I believe he can with the greatest of ease, he would be forced to reveal the minute details of many top secret programs still underway, thus undermining or destroying our nations intelligence gathering capabilities. The President was NOT willing to do this in the name of expediency and relied upon his war powers as CIC to justify his actions. Of course, during times of war other Presidents (named Roosevelt and Lincoln, for example) have made Bush's actions look tame, but hey, suddenly the Constitution has become a suicide note.

Nonetheless, the MSM/dem party still takes the position that the President has not made the legal case. This position presupposes two things 1) that the President has no war powers because Republican Presidents should have no powers at all; and 2) even if the President did have war powers, THIS IS NOT A WAR.

There is one group out there that disagrees with the Invasion of Iraq and thinks it is not an extension of the War on Terror, thinks that Afghanistan should have remained our main area of focus, and thinks that we were united in the War on Terror until the Iraq invasion. There is yet another group that supports the larger War on Terror, but still thinks it is time to get out of Iraq. What do both crowds have in common? They both know there is a War on. Moreover, these groups realize that prior to 9/11 we failed to connect the dots even as the attacks against American interests intensified until America itself was hit.

In the aftermath of 9/11 the democrats (hoping to slime Bush) loaded up the 9/11 commission and used it to scream the loudest that Bush had failed to connect the dots. Could anyone forget Hillary Clinton standing on the floor of the Senate blaring that "Bush knew?" Do we have such amnesia that we are unable to remember back just two weeks ago when the 9/11 members were criticizing Bush for not doing enough? Yet now he is criticized and criminalized for carrying out the very actions the 9/11 commission suggested. . . .as if there is NO WAR.

The Patriot Act killed, the Iraq War effort undermined, Intelligence leaked selectively to undermine political opponents at the expense of national security, etc. etc. These actions mean only one thing, the democrats believe that if they aren't in power, the country must not be worth saving. Better a destroyed America than one without them in power. Surely they must know that these extreme positions will win them nothing with the voters. In effect, the dems have strapped a bomb vest on themselves and become the ultimate suicide weapon for our enemies. Congrats guys, you hit rock bottom.


22 posted on 12/20/2005 6:46:43 AM PST by FlipWilson
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What gets me is that things were really turning around before this BS. Katrina, Plame, Miers, etc.

Bush finally got on the offensive and his poll numbers are rising. Now this. Pisses me off.

23 posted on 12/20/2005 6:47:05 AM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Merry Christmas!)
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The Commander-in-Chief does not need permission from a minority in Congress to intercept communications with THE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES!


24 posted on 12/20/2005 6:47:23 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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"I feel unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse, these activities," West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said in a handwritten letter to Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003. "As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney."

Apparently he was not sufficiently concerned to follow up with any legal inquiry of his own.

25 posted on 12/20/2005 6:47:27 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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"I feel unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse, these activities," West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said in a handwritten letter to Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003. "As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney."

"I am, however, a very wealthy trust baby with a low IQ."

26 posted on 12/20/2005 6:47:30 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (The New York Times: Al-Qaeda's most effective spy network.)
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