Posted on 12/20/2005 7:29:54 AM PST by kellynla
I believe that you summerized the defenition of 'THEY FORGOT'!
I am gonna have to read up on that one.
George Wills descent into Madness continues....
Don't forget a couple of committees to overlook all of this. Gotta have committees, maybe some independent outsiders to give some additional views too.
Maybe ask my Aunt Milly too and the kid who delivers her paper.
Oh no, don't play that crap with me. That's been done before, by the most worthless man to hold the office of the President. And 5 years later, the Supreme Court ruled he was wrong. He was wrong. Just as Bush is. The only difference is that idiot didn't wait for some sort of sign from Congress. It doesn't change the facts. You statists have tried that $hit before. It didn't fly the first time and it won't fly now.
The suspension of habeas corpus is not some power that can be 'delegated' to any power hungry executive. It is a specific power of Congress. It is not up for interpretation by Bush, Gonzales, or any of the other Bush lackeys. If this were the case, it would specifically outlined in the Constitution that this could be done. By that logic half the powers that belong to Congress could be swept under some sort of previous delegation to the President and taken over by the Executive Branch. Of course Bush faithful would have no problem with it, but I'd rather not we centralize any more power with the Executive Branch thank you.
...just a thought.
When he gets it right , he really does.
When he gets it wrong...
Anyone but a complete drooling idiot with a total lack of even a 1st grader's grasp of American politics would classify Bush as a Conservative. Raises some interesting questions. How DO you manage to operate a computer with an IQ that low?
Um Nope. Wrong. Sorry but your feeling on this matter are factually in error.
I don't know where people get this idea. We DID declare war.
There is no 'template' in the Constitution for a Declaration of War. Instead, it specifies a.) that only Congress can commit the military and b.) the President is its sole Commander-in-Chief.
Both of these conditions have been met, complete with specific reference to the President's powers under the War Powers Act.
Sorry but your feelings about the Constitutionality are completely irrelevant. You are not a King. We are not your subjects. Your opinions and feelings are completely meaningless and have no weight on the matter at all. They become even more meaningless as your basic inability to understand the facts in this case have been demonstrated in all of your posts.
Neither the Judicial, the Executive nor the Legislative branches findings agree with your feelings on this matter. When everyone else says "nope your opinions are wrong" Your opinions are wrong BB. Just becoming more emotional and angry will not change your irrelevance.
LOL!!! Not a bit of hate whatsoever, nor screaming. But when you don't have an argument all you can do is repeat the same mantra. Note please I have provided past instances for Executive overreach. Also note not a bit of Constitutional argument for your case. Rather it's based on there's a law, other Presidents have done it, so that makes it acceptable. I take it from your posts however you have never read the Federalist Papers, nor the papers of any of the Framers, as they were quite clear on the chain of command and the limitations of the separate branches.
I will not bother posting to you again. Your partisanship has blinded you to actual Constitutional history and the powers assumed by the Executive Branch tracing all the way back to the 1830s. You will base your statements on 'case law' and I will base mine on the Constitution. One of us is right and it's not the one that bases their opinions on activist judges (liberal and conservative) over the years
"The spirit of the times may alter, will alter. Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless. A single zealot may commence persecutor, and better men be his victims. It can never be too often repeated that the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is while our rulers are honest and ourselves united. From the conclusion of their war for independence, a nation begins going down hill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of that war will remain on them long, will be made heavier and heavier, till their rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVII, 1782.
In times like these it is immature -- and, incidentally, untrue -- for anybody to brag that an unprepared America, single-handed and with one hand tied behind its back, can hold off the whole world.
No realistic American can expect from a dictator’s peace international generosity, or return of true independence, or world disarmament, or freedom of expression, or freedom of religion -- or even good business. Such a peace would bring no security for us or for our neighbors. Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Franklin D. Roosevelt delivered 6 January, 1941
Do you consider President Bush to be fiscally conservative?
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