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Roberts Rakes Rockefeller
American Spectator ^ | Jed Babbin

Posted on 12/20/2005 10:58:25 AM PST by slowhand520

Roberts Rakes Rockefeller - Tuesday, December 20, 2005 @ 12:53:30 PM

Yesterday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), co-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee (and probable source of many leaks of secret information) released a hand-scrawled letter he had written to VP Cheney two years ago after being briefed on the NSA domestic intel effort. Rockefeller, trying to score political points, raised the letter as proof of his doubts about the NSA program, and that his hands were tied, unable to do anything about it. This morning, Intel Committee Chair Pat Roberts (R-KS) released this statement which blows Rockefeller out of the water:

"I am puzzled by the release yesterday of a July 2003 letter from Senator Rockefeller to the Vice President regarding the recently exposed intelligence collection program, which was authorized by the President shortly after September 11, 2001.

“In his letter and accompanying press statement, Senator Rockefeller asserts that he had lingering concerns about the program designed to protect the American people from another attack, but was prohibited from doing anything about it.

“A United States Senator has significant tools with which to wield power and influence over the executive branch. Feigning helplessness is not one of those tools.

“If Senator Rockefeller truly had the concerns he claimed to have had in his two and a half year old letter, he could have pursued a number of options to have those concerns addressed:

1. First, he could have discussed his concerns with me or other Members of Congress who had been briefed on the program. He never asked me or the Committee to take any action consistent with the “concerns” raised in his letter.

2. Second, he could have raised objections with the Vice President during one of the many briefings we received. I have no recollection of Senator Rockefeller objecting to the program at the many briefings he and I attended together. In fact, it is my recollection that on many occasions Senator Rockefeller expressed to the Vice President his vocal support for the program. His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago.

3. Finally, he could have pursued any number of legislative remedies. He chose to pursue none.

“Senator Rockefeller could have taken any of these approaches to adress his “lingering concerns.” He did not. He chose instead to write a letter to the Vice President and for two and a half years, keep a copy of the letter in the Intelligence Committee vault and say nothing to anyone.

“For the nearly three years Senator Rockefeller has served as Vice Chairman, I have heard no objection from him about this valuable program. Now, when it appears to be politically advantageous, Senator Rockefeller has chosen to release his two and a half year old letter. Forgive me if I find this to be inconsistent and a bit disingenuous.”

So do we, Sen. Roberts. So do we.

Posted By: Jed Babbin


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; jayrockefeller; jedbabbin; nsa; patriotleak; patroberts; roberts; rockefeller; senate; spying; tas
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1 posted on 12/20/2005 10:58:25 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520
Great post. Thanks.

Bump.

2 posted on 12/20/2005 11:01:26 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: slowhand520

Good post.


3 posted on 12/20/2005 11:02:34 AM PST by Chuck54 (Free Scooter, Indict Joe W)
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To: slowhand520

His concerns didn't stop him from flying to the Middle East to warn that an attack on Iraq was imminent. Disingenuous POS that he is....


4 posted on 12/20/2005 11:02:50 AM PST by NRA1995 (Jesus is the reason for the season)
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To: slowhand520

" Forgive me if I find this to be inconsistent and a bit disingenuous.”

Forgive me if I think that Jay Rockefeller is ( again) the source of the leak of highly classified material which has endangered national security.
Forgive me if I hope to see Jay Rockefeller frog marched off to Leavenworth.


5 posted on 12/20/2005 11:03:23 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: slowhand520

A nice sock in the mouth. Way to go, Roberts


6 posted on 12/20/2005 11:04:35 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: slowhand520

Rockefeller is an ass.


7 posted on 12/20/2005 11:05:07 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: slowhand520

Looks like Sen. Roberts won't be having Navy Bean Soup with Sen. Rockefeller in the Senate cafeteria anymore.


8 posted on 12/20/2005 11:06:02 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: slowhand520

Good post. Another news item showing a Dem to be a liar. No doubt it'll be front page news tomorrow on the NY Times or CBS programs.


9 posted on 12/20/2005 11:06:50 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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To: slowhand520; Mo1

I love this guy!


10 posted on 12/20/2005 11:07:34 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: slowhand520

"His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago."

LOL. Rockefeller will respond by saying "Um, I was too stupid to figure out what the Administration was briefing us on, so I just agreed with it. Yes, that's it."


11 posted on 12/20/2005 11:07:54 AM PST by frankjr
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To: slowhand520

It's not really whether he had concerns or not.

If he had concerns, they evidently weren't large enough to force the issue.


12 posted on 12/20/2005 11:08:48 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: frankjr
His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago.

Sweet. Just damn sweet.

13 posted on 12/20/2005 11:09:55 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: slowhand520
In fact, it is my recollection that on many occasions Senator Rockefeller expressed to the Vice President his vocal support for the program. His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago.

This Roberts guy looks like a straight shooter, and I think he just hit Rockefeller right between the eyes.

14 posted on 12/20/2005 11:10:10 AM PST by oldbrowser (Release the Barrett Report)
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To: slowhand520
"Senator Rockefeller expressed to the Vice President his vocal support for the program. His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago."

Have we have found the Kerry Flip-Flop Championship Winner for '05?
15 posted on 12/20/2005 11:10:32 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: toddlintown

Jay Rockefeller has all the qualifications of being called a SCUM BAG !!


16 posted on 12/20/2005 11:10:49 AM PST by Zenith
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To: slowhand520

wasn't he the one who went to syria before the war and told them that we definately WOULD invade Iraq?


17 posted on 12/20/2005 11:11:17 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: JeeperFreeper

I do soooo apologize for the nitwits representing WV.

GOP_Proud(WV) (shaking head)


18 posted on 12/20/2005 11:11:21 AM PST by GOP_Proud ("smooth as butt-ahh"... Toolbelt Diva)
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To: slowhand520
Sen. Jay Rockefeller...to F'ing stupid to understand contents of security briefings...to F'ing stupid to understand his anti-American remarks hurt the troops and the war effort...yet smart enough to keep a 2 1/2 year old note just in case. This turd is as transparent a window....
19 posted on 12/20/2005 11:11:27 AM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: slowhand520
We all caught the same declaration?

fact, it is my recollection that on many occasions Senator Rockefeller expressed to the Vice President his vocal support for the program. His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago.

Busted!

BTW, did Cheney ever get that letter? Just curious if that was verified. I wouldn't be surprised if he never even sent it.

20 posted on 12/20/2005 11:11:49 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Howlin

How much ya wanna bet that so-called letter is 2 days old and not 2 years old???


21 posted on 12/20/2005 11:11:56 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: slowhand520

I wonder how many Shirley Temple's it took to get Roberts to pipe-off.


22 posted on 12/20/2005 11:12:09 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: slowhand520

And we're supposed to know Rockyfellah wrote his letter before last night how exactly? Oh, I know, I bet we're supposed to take his word for it model of integrity that he's shown himself to be in the past.

Pat Roberts Rocks!


23 posted on 12/20/2005 11:12:38 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Soul Seeker
BTW, did Cheney ever get that letter? Just curious if that was verified. I wouldn't be surprised if he never even sent it.

I'd LOVE to know that answer also

I'm betting nope

24 posted on 12/20/2005 11:12:51 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: oldbrowser

((This Roberts guy looks like a straight shooter...))

Ya think?

http://roberts.senate.gov/07-09a-2004.htm


25 posted on 12/20/2005 11:13:10 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: camle
wasn't he the one who went to syria before the war and told them that we definately WOULD invade Iraq?

Yes

26 posted on 12/20/2005 11:13:44 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: slowhand520

"His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago."

The dems are going to get burned badly on this. Not only have all presidents since FDR (and maybe even before) used warrantless surveillance, but now any chance the dems had to pretend to be strong on national security is blown away. Congratulating themselves on killing the Patriot Act and now trying to take one of our intelligence weapons away = useless, dangerous weenies.


27 posted on 12/20/2005 11:14:03 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: slowhand520

The Senate Rats are all pompous asses who think they are above all, just watch C-Span and observe their better than thou appearance.


28 posted on 12/20/2005 11:14:03 AM PST by boomop1
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To: slowhand520

Has anyone seen this statement by Roberts anywhere except the Spectator? Even they don't have a link. I checked Robert's senate website and it's not there either. Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks.


29 posted on 12/20/2005 11:14:21 AM PST by noexcuses
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To: slowhand520

Simply put MOST Dims and all Leftists are SCUM and in particular Senator Rockefeller gives SCUM a good name.


30 posted on 12/20/2005 11:14:37 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: slowhand520

Good to see some Pubbies playing hard ball for a change.

Stick a fork in this story, it's done.


31 posted on 12/20/2005 11:14:52 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Mo1

i thought so. wonder why no one is screaming that Echelon is a Clinton creation?


32 posted on 12/20/2005 11:15:21 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Mo1
How much ya wanna bet that so-called letter is 2 days old and not 2 years old???

I'm with you on that one. The fact that it was "hand scribbled", probably in haste, is a red flad to me.

33 posted on 12/20/2005 11:16:32 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: conservativebabe
I'm with you on that one. The fact that it was "hand scribbled", probably in haste, is a red flad to me

I don't get why he didn't type it .. does he not have a computer??

And ... wouldn't it be a hoot if he didn't write it *L*

34 posted on 12/20/2005 11:17:59 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: slowhand520

bump


35 posted on 12/20/2005 11:18:41 AM PST by Vasilli22 (http://www.richardfest.blogspot.com/)
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To: Soul Seeker

Even if Cheney never got the letter even if Rockefeller never sent it, it still counts because Libs mean well and Rockefeller meant to send it so it was his intentions that counted. Like Rush always points out... (/sarcasm)


36 posted on 12/20/2005 11:19:32 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: slowhand520

I've always thought that Rockerfeller was the source of the leak, ever since the Rockerfeller memo was made known by The Prowler 2 years ago.


37 posted on 12/20/2005 11:19:47 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: slowhand520

Ka-boom!


38 posted on 12/20/2005 11:19:51 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the Marines of 3/1.)
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To: slowhand520

"Forgive me if I find this to be inconsistent and a bit disingenuous.”

I love it!

We certainly forgive you, Senator Roberts, but I doubt that Rockefeller will forgive you for exposing exactly what a hyprocritical, dishonest opportunistic creep he is. Caught with his pants down and then had his drawers publicly shredded!


39 posted on 12/20/2005 11:20:12 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (We're in this fight to win. These colors don't run. -- VP Cheney, 12/18/2005)
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To: Mo1

A hoot, indeed.

Wouldn't you think these idiots would get really tired of always stepping in the proverbial doo doo? No matter what they try, they can't seem to win. LOL!


40 posted on 12/20/2005 11:20:20 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: slowhand520
The Dem's will go down in flames attempting this latest smear designed to prop up their house of cards towards impeachment.

You would think these idiots would know by now that the president watches his steps and works within the authority and the powers granted to the president of the United States.

Every time they pull one of these stunts they should be required to scrub the presidents personal bathroom at the White House with their own tooth brushes.
41 posted on 12/20/2005 11:20:30 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Mo1

And ... wouldn't it be a hoot if he didn't write it


Letter is 2 years old. NYTimes sat on the story for a year. Smells more like a coordinated plan to me.


42 posted on 12/20/2005 11:21:01 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: MNJohnnie; Peach; Alas Babylon!

Ping to this thread on Sen. Roberts response to Sen. Rockefellers letter.


43 posted on 12/20/2005 11:21:44 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the Marines of 3/1.)
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To: txrangerette
it still counts because Libs mean well and Rockefeller meant to send it so it was his intentions that counted.

I think that statement is what you call, hitting the nail on the head.

44 posted on 12/20/2005 11:21:53 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: camle
wasn't he the one who went to syria before the war and told them that we definately WOULD invade Iraq?

Rockerfeller gave Saddam a "heads up".

45 posted on 12/20/2005 11:21:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: frankjr

Or maybe Rockefeller was in the same reading classes as Little Harry. You know, the ones in Searchlight, NV. that weren't very good. They do come from similar backgrounds, you know.


46 posted on 12/20/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (We're in this fight to win. These colors don't run. -- VP Cheney, 12/18/2005)
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To: Soul Seeker
fact, it is my recollection that on many occasions Senator Rockefeller expressed to the Vice President his vocal support for the program. His most recent expression of support was only two weeks ago.

I am asking myself who Rockefeller really represents...have partisan politics really come to this in our country?

47 posted on 12/20/2005 11:22:16 AM PST by Dolphy
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To: slowhand520

Good news.

ALL the Rockefellers are a bunch of elitist, left-wing socialists.


48 posted on 12/20/2005 11:22:34 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: oldbrowser

Sen Roberts is from Dodge City....I think he still believes in the code of the West!!!!

LOL!!!


49 posted on 12/20/2005 11:22:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: hipaatwo

Coordinated plan, just as Bush's numbers are going up. They can't let that happen.


50 posted on 12/20/2005 11:22:54 AM PST by conservativebabe
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