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Germany angers U.S. by freeing terrorist
UPI ^ | Dec 21, 2005 | Stefan Nicola

Posted on 12/21/2005 10:31:07 AM PST by txroadkill

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To: MNJohnnie

I'm becoming pro grenade and all enenmy dead now myself.

mc


21 posted on 12/21/2005 10:53:02 AM PST by mcshot (And much it grieves my heart to think what Dems proclaim the truth.)
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To: Milwaukeeprophet
I have posted this before! From the MSNBC website. Please notice the date.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8219264/

"One of the hijackers, Mohammed Hamadei, was caught in Germany, convicted, and sentenced to life. But he could be out on parole in six months. "
June 14, 2005

Besides that, do you really think that Merkel decides who will be released from prison? The German justice system sucks, but don't blame Merkel for it!!! BTW, minister of justice,Brigitte Zypries (SPD)is not form Merkels party.
22 posted on 12/21/2005 10:53:13 AM PST by flieger
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To: Gay State Conservative; carumba; meanie monster; Joe Boucher; Milwaukeeprophet

As some have said later, but I want to address it to you:

19 years is actually a long time for murder in Germany. The average prisoner is out after 15-18 years, so that he was in prison for 19 years is surely not a slap against America, maybe a special hug, even though you don´t agree with our laws.

For anybody knowing the German justice system, it is obvious that this has no relation with the Osthoff hostage case (because of the usual imprisonment for murder).

Thank you for your attention and merry Christmas!


23 posted on 12/21/2005 10:55:14 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus

Why does Germany coddle cold-blooded murderers?


24 posted on 12/21/2005 10:56:29 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: MNJohnnie
No prisoners.

You understand that this will be the result of this crazy "anti-torture" law that was foisted by John McCain. The capture rate will go way down and the dead terrorist count will go way up. Prisoners have become a real liability instead of an asset, so why try to get info when the only thing you can do is ask them please.

Terrorists ain't going to like McCains law IMO.

25 posted on 12/21/2005 10:58:46 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: txroadkill
Looks like Germany traded this guy for the Hostage that was held in Iraq

We would never do anything like that in out Country. Here, we simply release convicted terrorists to gain political favor with certain leftist and/or ethinic voting blocks.

26 posted on 12/21/2005 10:58:59 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
"We" did no such thing.

Bill Clinton did.

27 posted on 12/21/2005 10:59:49 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: txroadkill
In my view, it is clear that Germany has a not-so-secret fondness for Islamofascist terrorists der Führer's third reich helped create.
28 posted on 12/21/2005 11:00:07 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Well I guess every grey cloud really does have a silver lining. Dead Terrorists are good Terrorists. Let's make as many good terrorists as possible then.


29 posted on 12/21/2005 11:00:35 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: txroadkill

I think a couple of CIA agents could "carry out" the rest of his sentence when the d-ckhead is resting happily in some hole in the Middle East.


30 posted on 12/21/2005 11:00:49 AM PST by tom h
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To: txroadkill

has completed an apprenticeship in prison ....and is now a master bomb maker


31 posted on 12/21/2005 11:01:32 AM PST by crazycat
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To: B.O. Plenty
You understand that this will be the result of this crazy "anti-torture" law that was foisted by John McCain. The capture rate will go way down and the dead terrorist count will go way up. Prisoners have become a real liability instead of an asset, so why try to get info when the only thing you can do is ask them please.

Terrorists ain't going to like McCains law IMO.

I'm sorry, but you're sadly mistaken. Islamist terrorists (I know...redundant) are all about dying for their cause. Being captured is a greater ignominy than dying on the field of battle.

Terrorists are going to love McCain's sheer and uttery stupidity. They've now got a win-win. They can become martyrs, or they can be captured and still vex the "weak-willed minions of the Great Satan."

32 posted on 12/21/2005 11:03:28 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: tom h
He'll be easy to find. He'll be the guy being honored with a parade down the full length of the Gaza Strip.

A returning hero, he'll live well from now on, cheered and feted by Islamofascists everywhere.

33 posted on 12/21/2005 11:03:55 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Prime Choice
Time will tell.....but more dead terrorists and fewer prisoners will still be the result...whether the terrorists like it or not.....and a dead terrorist is a good terrorist.

What we absolutely agree on is the fact that McCain's bill is .....sheer and utter stupidity.

34 posted on 12/21/2005 11:13:54 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: JCEccles

Because the Constitutional Court ruled, that Art. 1 of our Constitution ("The dignity of man is untouchable.") also applies to murderers. Life in prison is against the human dignity. Only in few cases (reasonable suspicion that the offender could kill again) the court may order a really really lifelong imprisonment, and so it was here. But in these cases, after 15 years, psychos shall visit the inmates from time to time and check their "evil factor". Those whackos often made wrong decisions in the past, and thus we had many children being killed by an released murderer after they abused them. Sick, isn´t it??

In the other cases (normal murder), the criminals are released after 15-18 years.


35 posted on 12/21/2005 11:16:07 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Labyrinthos
Here, we simply release convicted terrorists to gain political favor with certain leftist and/or ethinic voting blocks.

And sometimes the President will grant them a full pardon.

37 posted on 12/21/2005 11:20:09 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: flieger
I am not blaming Merkel. She is a decent and pleasant human being. I know who is to blame . However , she represents the " Regierung". Therefore , she is the only return address
38 posted on 12/21/2005 11:21:48 AM PST by Milwaukeeprophet (Neo and proud)
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To: Michael81Dus
Apparently the "dignity of man" doesn't apply to the people who the murderer killed.

This terrorist that Germany released after 19 years in one of its cozy prisons in only in his late 30s. He has 50 years of life and freedom ahead of him. He will return to the Middle East a hero.

Stetham, who he beat and killed in cold blood, will never again breathe, laugh, or have joy. His familyy will grieve the loss for the rest of their lives.

Every day this terrorist continues to live, every breath he takes, heaps gross indignity upon the memory of the brave and decent man he killed, and upon that man's family.

Germany has treated the Stetham family with gross disrespect in violation of its constitution.

39 posted on 12/21/2005 11:28:57 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Michael81Dus
I shall repost an earlier comment.

"Merkel should be told not to come to the US. Germany continues to be an unpredictable nation . The Germans have no principles . They are either national-socialist or socialist. Equality ueber alles ."

Based on your stated replies and defense of Hammadi's release only further show that Germany is a State of no principles. Such a state should not be considered a partner of the United States, whether militarily, socially, economically etc. The United States should not have a beneficial relationship with any nation which can release psychotic convicted terrorists early in their life. If the principles of Germany believe that such a man can be rehabilitated and return his "dignity" by early release, or even believe that such a sentence is considered drastic, then Germany is a nation that should be avoided at all costs in any international affair.

If the status quo of the opinion in Germany is represented by your comments, then i can only believe is it not just the state of Germany but the people as well have degraded into a lowly state of human condition.

40 posted on 12/21/2005 11:52:22 AM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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