[IranIsNext]

"Simply not making orgies illegal does not sanction them. You seem to want to rely on our government into forcing everyone to be moral. Where is the beauty in that? That strips away the value from those chosing to be moral of their own free will.

If you consider yourself moral, as you appear to, you should consider being less ugly to those who disagree with you. "

Welcome to the world of collectivist thought my friend. Of course, is a society that forces its people to be "moral" at gunpoint really a moral society at all? Or is it just a facade? If you really wanted a society to be moral, perhaps doing so by persuasion instead of force is a better option?

[M203M4]

Hey, nothing wrong with socialism when it is for "conservative" things, right? Right? *snicker*

[Sax]

Yep, simply being good, right, and moral, isn't enough justification for making a law.

Acting moral through free will is a whole different animal than doing moral things by force or threat of governmental punishment.