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Then, if you're Toussaint, you announce that the TWU will return to work while negotiations continue if the MTA gives up on asking for pension reform. Which is perhaps Toussaint's most cynical position. Why? Because all of a sudden he's willing to let the no-contract-no-work TWU run the buses and trains without a deal in hand - just as he could have yesterday and the day before, thus demonstrating how needless this strike has been.

There are also indications that hundreds, if not a thousand or more, have returned to work. The MTA has been running TV ads appealing directly to workers.

As of this writing, there are reports that the two sides are meeting face-to-face.

With respect to firings, the NYDN had this to say:

Wanna just fire them? That's a rail tough job

It has become an angry refrain as New Yorkers walk, bike and hitch their way through the cold with the striking MTA workers in mind: "Why don't they just fire them all?"

According to the Taylor Law, which outlaws strikes, a striking worker can in fact lose his job.

But that doesn't make mass firings practical, according to Jerome Lefkowitz, an architect of the law.

Everyone fired for striking could ask for an individual hearing on his or her dismissal: "It would be a very complicated and expensive process," Lefkowitz said.

There's also the obvious problem of quickly finding, training and dispatching people to replace the 33,700 strikers.

Haste in replacing striking workers has contributed to tragedy in the past: A 1918 transit strike, during which a dispatcher was sent to fill in for a motorman, ended in the horrific Malbone St. wreck, which killed nearly 100 people in Brooklyn.

Then there's politics.

Asked yesterday whether either union honchos or striking workers should be fired, Gov. Pataki sidestepped the question entirely.

"That's for the MTA and the lawyers to look at. That's for the court," he said.

While some call on Pataki to fire the strikers, as President Ronald Reagan did to striking air-traffic controllers in 1981, Doug Muzzio of the Baruch College School of Public Affairs said it could hurt him.

"Just the public safety issues - he could be seen as really irresponsible here," Muzzio said. "[And] if he fires them, how long does it take to certify and train [new] people?"

1 posted on 12/22/2005 4:06:08 AM PST by StatenIsland
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To: StatenIsland

I got an idea, give them the contract they asked for... just debit the half-billion or so this strike has cost the city so far... and make it contingent on getting rid of the union's leadership.


2 posted on 12/22/2005 4:24:37 AM PST by CalGOPTom
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To: StatenIsland
Wow, they have to go all the way back to 1918 to find a transit tragedy to bring up.

Fire the bums now. You'll have people lining up for these jobs inside of 4 hours.

L

4 posted on 12/22/2005 4:32:41 AM PST by Lurker (And everyday the paperboy brings more...)
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To: StatenIsland
Doug Muzio needs to shut his fat trap.

It would be a nice change of pace, if it accomplishes nothing else.

6 posted on 12/22/2005 4:49:14 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: StatenIsland

The governor should fire them all. Where is Reagon when you need him. No one left here but cowardly regpublicans that run from the battle. It was a great nation before the socialists ran it into the ground.


8 posted on 12/22/2005 4:51:47 AM PST by kindred (Democrat Party- the Grinch that stole Christmas.Party leader,Ebeneezer Scrooge.)
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To: StatenIsland
Their pension rights are guaranteed by the state Constitution and cannot be changed

Union public workers don't know how good they have it...

11 posted on 12/22/2005 5:53:30 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: StatenIsland
I think the TWU went about this the wrong way. In fact, transit unions in general have a hard time generating sympathy among taxpayers because their job actions tend to be so disruptive.

A co-worker of mine described what he called the perfect job action for transit workers. He experienced this while on a business trip to Seoul, South Korea a few years back. The Seoul transit workers were involved in a labor dispute with their management, so they went "on strike." Maybe you have to be Asian to think this way, but it was the most simple and effective job action I've ever heard of. They showed up for work every day during their "strike" and performed their job functions as if it were any ordinary day . . . the trains and buses ran in a timely, efficient, manner.

The one thing they didn't do was collect any fares on the buses and trains.

This was a perfect job action for the union, because it accomplished three things that are almost impossible to do simultaneously in a public sector strike:

1. There was no disruption in the lives of the general public;

2. The financial cost to the transit system was devastating;

3. Public support for the union was nearly unanimous, since the public was actually better off from a financial standpoint when the union was "on strike" than they were under normal conditions.

12 posted on 12/22/2005 5:59:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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